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ok, i wantot o start making an article here, and ill work on it a bit before iput it into mainspace, to avoid the pressure of having an unfinished article on the wiki. It will deal with playing at 60 hertz, and getting certain pieces to certai orientations as quickly as possible, hoppefully listing every possible combination. It should complement this articleTetris Stacking and assist with playing at optimum speed and playing and stuff.

caffeine said "note that the finesse guide was meant for TDS, not fast DAS games. for a full explanation (i think), [see this thread][1]. hmm, i should probably integrate that information into the wiki, but it's like-- what's the point? tetris holding will never release a fast das game. =/"

so this is the information im gonna work off, and use pictures and stuff to make it happen.

fuck it

I can't use the tool, its too darn complicated. ill do it one day, not for a while. argh

Are you referring to pfstart or THE Tool? --DIGITAL 03:03, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

Just use pfstart. Find an article with a diagram, look at the edit page, and just copy off of that to what ends you need it. 08:43, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

I mean the tool. pfstart is easy to use, but it cant do animations, but so i guess ill just do the image of the piece placed, and list the movement required. Cubicz 19:37, 16 March 2007 (EDT)