Quick pro midgame t-spin doubles!

[Paul676]

They must be quick and midgame, and not necessarily obvious. I am currently learning how to spot and do these two.

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Another thing which is awesome if you wanna learn it is when to see this shape:

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[Blitz]

I did this, quick and mid game.
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Got it on tape!
http://no.twitch.tv/iitzblitz/c/1942882

[Paul676]

What you're really saying there, in terms of meaningful theory, is this s/z single --> t-spin double. It is a cool shape to see, I agree

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The first part of your fumen reminds me of this one:

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[MarioThePhenom]

What you're really saying there, in terms of meaningful theory, is this s/z single --> t-spin double. It is a cool shape to see, I agree

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which is then very similar to this one:
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though ive never figured out how to do it midgame, closest ive gotten was this one
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which is basically it backwards. tsd-> tsm,
it also has a few variations of the initial t that i can think of off the top of my head

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[Paul676]

Mario's fumen, but showing the initial shape.

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[Agamemnon]

Paul: you KNOW how the second one of your first two works, right? It's a TSS (mini) into TSD - the second one will give 6 lines added on TOJ but only 4 on TF... (TSS gives a line too on TOJ, no?) It used to be a default opener...

[Paul676]

yeah I know how it works

5 on tf because the tsd is b2b

[Agamemnon]

I didn't think TF registered minis...

[Paul676]

It registers them.

[Blitz]

What you're really saying there, in terms of meaningful theory, is this s/z single --> t-spin double. It is a cool shape to see, I agree

You can also see it as another way to do the "spider".
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[MarioThePhenom]

You can also see it as another way to do the fractal.

fixed it

[Paul676]

yes, we must not let jix infiltrate!

[myndzi]

I love to see people using S and Z more confidently. There are lots of placements that don't look easy but actually are. GO KOS PLAYERS

[MarioThePhenom]

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just a little something ive been noticing, dont know if this is common knowledge or not

[FieryLight]

I did this about 15 minutes ago (actually, I don't remember it exactly but it was close to this):
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EDIT:

It was actually like this:
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