Most Lines Sent Legitimately?

Started by FelipeMayrink, February 23, 2013, 11:38:29 AM

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FelipeMayrink

I was wondering what video out there has the most amount of lines sent legitimately on Tetris Battle. I put enphasis on "legitimately" because there's A LOT of fake/cheaty videos out there. People doing stuff like:

• Playing against themselves
• Playing against an opponent that doesn't move
• General speed hacking
• Using items [not exactly a cheat, but come on, dude... Come on...]
• Being asian

So I was hoping if you guys could show me what you can find. Don't care if it's 2p, 6p or Arena. Don't care if it's Facebook or Tetris Friends. Don't care if it's with bombs or not. Here's the best I could find:

Edit:
Best found yet:
229 Lines - By Daniel Huang
>> (video starts at 24:30) <<

Thanks to Daniel himself, for pointing out the video.

dhuang413

The second video happens to be mine.
I do have one video of live play with Hebo that I send 229 lines in.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPnyQFjUQtg at 24:20

A few quick notes though:
These "cheaters" are only playing idle opponents because of the KO limit (2P 5KO and the game is over; 6P - 10KOs).
I wouldn't count any of these as "legit" anyways because it's simply a measure of power output. Getting KO'ed has no effect on you whatsoever in 6P (you can get KO'ed as many times as you want), and there is no need to downstack. This makes it so that all players end up doing to achieve records is efficient attacks  (ST Stacking - 2.5 APL and 4w - approximately 3.3 APL) that are completely implausible in guideline Tetris matches (TF arena and such).



arf

I've seen subversive44 get like, 260-270 lines in tf live numerous times. i wouldn't be surprised if he got closer to 300 lines.

FelipeMayrink

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Quote from: dhuang413
The second video happens to be mine.
I do have one video of live play with Hebo that I send 229 lines in.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPnyQFjUQtg at 24:20

A few quick notes though:
These "cheaters" are only playing idle opponents because of the KO limit (2P 5KO and the game is over; 6P - 10KOs).
I wouldn't count any of these as "legit" anyways because it's simply a measure of power output. Getting KO'ed has no effect on you whatsoever in 6P (you can get KO'ed as many times as you want), and there is no need to downstack. This makes it so that all players end up doing to achieve records is efficient attacks  (ST Stacking - 2.5 APL and 4w - approximately 3.3 APL) that are completely implausible in guideline Tetris matches (TF arena and such).
Very nice response.
I figured that was the rational behind those cheaters. Good point on the 6P thing, too.

Also, VERY nice gameplay. Updated the first post.


Quote from: arf
I've seen subversive44 get like, 260-270 lines in tf live numerous times. i wouldn't be surprised if he got closer to 300 lines.
Any videos?

Panda

Quote from: FelipeMayrink

Edit:
Best found yet:
229 Lines - By Daniel Huang
>> (video starts at 24:30) <<

Thanks to Daniel himself, for pointing out the video.


god i could watch hebo stack all day lol, such mastery and brilliance ~

memyselfandmeagain

Is this legit because it looks like it actually is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUAm_v0hFEA
William Tu sent 273 lines.

UJS3

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Quote from: memyselfandmeagain
Is this legit because it looks like it actually is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUAm_v0hFEA
William Tu sent 273 lines.

His opponent sends 250 lines using only tetrises  

dhuang413

Quote from: UJS3
His opponent sends 250 lines using only tetrises  

The 273 is legit, but the 250 was speed hacked, according to William Tu himself. The 273 player is not William Tu, but http://www.facebook.com/kklo9882?fref=ts.

FelipeMayrink

Quote from: dhuang413
The 273 is legit, but the 250 was speed hacked, according to William Tu himself. The 273 player is not William Tu, but http://www.facebook.com/kklo9882?fref=ts.
I'm not sure about this one. Are you sure it's legit?

1) He has some videos where he DOES cheat
2) It's wasn't really a gradual process, he went from 236 to 273
3) The fact that he's opponenet hacked but he didn't makes me hesitate

dhuang413

Quote from: FelipeMayrink
I'm not sure about this one. Are you sure it's legit?

1) He has some videos where he DOES cheat
2) It's wasn't really a gradual process, he went from 236 to 273
3) The fact that he's opponenet hacked but he didn't makes me hesitate

I do have a video of live play against him here from a year ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sle-X_oeCI

In this video, he demonstrates he does have speed, but maybe not the consistency you need to achieve such records. However, all it takes is one lucky game. Also, his actual channel is here: http://www.youtube.com/user/kklo9882/video...grid&view=0. He goes from 248 to 273; I'm not sure, but there may have been in-between games that were not posted.

Here's what I know for sure: The Taiwanese use a program called Fiddler2 to play against a replay of their choosing, most of the time one that does wall kick looping, or one that sends enough lines at a consistent pace so that 5KO is not achieved (done with speed hack using CheatEngine I believe). Live play confirms whether these players are legit or not.