Is Perfect Clear a viable method in Battle 2P? Or are tspins way better?

ZeroT · November 15, 2011, 05:21:20 AM

XeaL is cool!

DarthDuck · November 15, 2011, 11:50:56 AM

Quote from: zhiyuen91U guys noe Bl1ink right? Does he play like in major tournaments or something? I've seen his videos he's really good. Never knew you can play tetris is such different ways until i came across this forum

Blink owns this site. But there's also a B1ink and you might be running the two together.

zhiyuen91 · November 15, 2011, 06:27:06 PM

Quote from: DarthDuck
Blink owns this site. But there's also a B1ink and you might be running the two together.

So, they are two different people? Nevertheless, this might sound stupid, but what Min / Max DAS do people normally use on Nullpomino??

DarthDuck · November 15, 2011, 06:36:08 PM

I use 15 min/max DAS with 0 delay but no one on this site uses it that slow (so that would be the extreme). The opposite extreme is 3 min/max DAS with 0 delay. Normal is about 7 min/max but still with 0 delay. I'm only aware of 3 1/2 people who use 1 DAS delay and none of them have really explained why so you should probably just stick with 0 delay.

Here is a related thread to that question: http://harddrop.com/forums/index.php?showt...3936 < took search parameters out of url

zhiyuen91 · November 15, 2011, 06:41:33 PM

Quote from: DarthDuck
I use 15 min/max DAS with 0 delay but no one on this site uses it that low (so that would be the extreme). The opposite extreme is 3 min/max DAS with 0 delay. Normal is about 7 min/max but still with 0 delay. I'm only aware of 3 1/2 people who use 1 DAS delay and none of them have really explained why so you should probably just stick with 0 delay.

Here is a related thread to that question: http://harddrop.com/forums/index.php?showt...3936&hl=das

Thanks darthduck. i'll go try messing with it

Paradox · November 15, 2011, 08:14:00 PM

def don't use as slow as 15 that is redic. The lower you can do comfortably the better, thats the rule of thumb. DAS delay - always 0

DarthDuck · November 15, 2011, 08:26:42 PM

He is the 3/0 extreme by the way so a little bias there.

I have tried every single DAS setting at length, including 3/0. On my old keyboard I liked 9/0, on this one I like 15/0.

The only ridiculous thing is calling other people's comfort zones ridiculous, so do what makes you happy. I mean that literally; 4/0 DAS might give you a competitive edge, but it will probably make you miserable.

zhiyuen91 · November 16, 2011, 05:08:27 AM

by the way, anyone of you have any thoughts on the implication of not being able to see the next preview of tetriminos? was trying facebook tetris battle today and u actually need to buy upgrades which includes preview of the next piece. Can pros play without knowing what the next piece is? or is the preview an essential part of avoiding misdrops?? also, assuming u maxed out (bought all the upgrades for the right/left. soft drop) whats the DAS??

fishcake · November 16, 2011, 06:41:22 AM

Quote from: zhiyuen91
by the way, anyone of you have any thoughts on the implication of not being able to see the next preview of tetriminos? was trying facebook tetris battle today and u actually need to buy upgrades which includes preview of the next piece. Can pros play without knowing what the next piece is? or is the preview an essential part of avoiding misdrops?? also, assuming u maxed out (bought all the upgrades for the right/left. soft drop) whats the DAS??

I'm pretty sure pros can play without seeing the preview, or maybe just 1 piece preview. There are videos of people reaching the max score on Tetris NES (999,999), and that game only has 1 piece preview.

For me, I need to be able to see the next few pieces in order to stack properly (I'm still a noob!). I use ST stacking on Tetris Battle, and I occasionally fail to stack the opening properly because I can only see 2 pieces ahead.

zhiyuen91 · November 16, 2011, 07:11:53 AM

Quote from: fishcake
I'm pretty sure pros can play without seeing the preview, or maybe just 1 piece preview. There are videos of people reaching the max score on Tetris NES (999,999), and that game only has 1 piece preview.

For me, I need to be able to see the next few pieces in order to stack properly (I'm still a noob!). I use ST stacking on Tetris Battle, and I occasionally fail to stack the opening properly because I can only see 2 pieces ahead.

same here lol. i guess theres no shortcut to tetris except for practicing hard.

DarthDuck · November 16, 2011, 12:33:33 PM

Quote from: zhiyuen91
by the way, anyone of you have any thoughts on the implication of not being able to see the next preview of tetriminos? was trying facebook tetris battle today and u actually need to buy upgrades which includes preview of the next piece. Can pros play without knowing what the next piece is? or is the preview an essential part of avoiding misdrops?? also, assuming u maxed out (bought all the upgrades for the right/left. soft drop) whats the DAS??

I was too paranoid about bad habits to play it without full piece previews. You should aspire to being able to use your peripheral vision for as many non-distracting calculations as possible. Playing without piece previews may give you habits that will blind this peripheral skill.

Note that they just added even more left-right speed upgrade categories a few days ago. Before it felt like about 15/5, now it feels more like 10/1. They don't break down the exact frame equivalencies for us.

But still you need to pay a fortune for all those upgrades, or wait a full month to apply for a credit card. Not sure why you aren't on nullpomino but if this is what makes you happy then grind away at those free offers, just make sure to use a good antimalware program afterward.

XaeL · November 16, 2011, 03:47:15 PM

Quote from: fishcake
I'm pretty sure pros can play without seeing the preview, or maybe just 1 piece preview. There are videos of people reaching the max score on Tetris NES (999,999), and that game only has 1 piece preview.

They dont have to t-spin. They also dont have to downstack. They also play at < 1 piece per second. i think the max they play at is 0.8pps

zhiyuen91 · November 17, 2011, 02:04:14 PM

Quote from: DarthDuck
I was too paranoid about bad habits to play it without full piece previews. You should aspire to being able to use your peripheral vision for as many non-distracting calculations as possible. Playing without piece previews may give you habits that will blind this peripheral skill.

Note that they just added even more left-right speed upgrade categories a few days ago. Before it felt like about 15/5, now it feels more like 10/1. They don't break down the exact frame equivalencies for us.

But still you need to pay a fortune for all those upgrades, or wait a full month to apply for a credit card. Not sure why you aren't on nullpomino but if this is what makes you happy then grind away at those free offers, just make sure to use a good antimalware program afterward.

im on nullpominos too but am just trying out the facebook tetris lol since my buddies was able to get a hold of it in university. Thanks for the reply will try playing without full piece previews