ST-Stacking

Started by Panda, August 20, 2012, 06:57:15 AM

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Panda

I've just become familiar with this technique, though a bit shaky. The opening in particular is especially difficult for me and my flexibility of execution is very limited...

That said, could somebody show me/describe a fairly comprehensive list of opening scenarios? (Or at least the less intuitive ones)


Also, is ST more suited for slower players, given that they can process the technique's complexity?  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCyR-UCHHls

I recently came across this video in which a ST stacker goes neck and neck with a standard TSD player (presumably Jason Kwan?). Given the speed disadvantage, the ST player would've certainly lost had he also went for standard TSDs. Of course bombs were off, but with a more equally matched opponent would the results have been similar? And would this ST player have benefited more had he went for 4-Wide instead?

myndzi


This thread is a great resource for finding "how to" threads: http://harddrop.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4143

Such as:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=175252

With regards to Tetris Battle, with bombs off and solid garbage you have to resort entirely to upstacking to attack. Normally a big part of being effective in VS is utilizing your garbage, which you can't do with solid garbage. The math behind it becomes pretty easy then, depending only on things you can easily measure. I don't know the garbage table so I can't suggest what's what, but I do know that ST stacking can be maintained for a good while, and the fact that it's formulaic makes it easier to pull off (less thinking required). It seems like a solid approach to me, though the same caveats apply as with 40 lines: freestyling it is probably a little more effective since you're more flexible and can react to your pieces and stack shape sooner.

dhuang413

that's my video

Uhh, I'd say the only reason why I was able to compete is because I limited misdrops. ST stacking is actually very inflexible, and usually one misdrop causes a loss. Jason Kwan (SirJeivus) has also played a much quicker ST stacker with a lines sent record of 285, but that ST stacker lost 2-7 because he misdropped so often.

However, elite players such as Hebo can defeat St consistently regardless of the skill level of the ST stacker. I played Hebo recently, and lost 2-10 despite misdropping only 4 times total in 12 games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUFz2Zy1KJ4&feature=plcp