A look at perfection : an analysis of Lapsilap's WR 40-line run

Started by caffeine, April 24, 2011, 03:04:13 PM

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Profane

im so used to holding i play much much slower when i try to play a game without using it.  I'm pretty sure i could shave 2 seconds off my fastest time if i could just stop it.  Sad thing is i've had games where i held almost every piece.  So it's not like i can't stack without it, i've just gotten so used to it that the habit is hard to break.

Apocalypse

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tjenyao

@Paradox
What do you mean by line clear delay in TF? :O
edit: wait.. you're penalised for SKIMMING? That doesn't make sense, to me at least =o

Paradox

Quote from: tjenyao
@Paradox
What do you mean by line clear delay in TF? :O
edit: wait.. you're penalised for SKIMMING? That doesn't make sense, to me at least =o

line clear delay means that when you clear a line you have to wait a certain amount of time for no reason at all. For example i might harddrop , wait for x seconds, then harddrop again. This means that on TF you will waste less time if you make fewer line clears (all tetrises) 4 singles would take forever compared to 1 tetris. Since its very difficult to clear only tetrises without hold you are pretty much forced to use it.

this is why lapsilap can get 21 seconds on nullpomino but not on TF (and some other factors like DAS/AR)

nullpomino typically has 0 line clear delay (depends on the rule you use)
TF has so much line clear delay that a fast player misses the opportunity that could be used for 1-4 keypresses.
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Paul676

Yeah Paradox is right.

But he did play the piece in a place where he couldn't have skimmed - but a hole in the stack I guess would have had the same effect as skimming.
               Tetris Belts!

Paradox

Quote from: Paul676
Yeah Paradox is right.

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Alexsweden

Anyone else thinks it is cute when Barneey and tjenyao are writing to one another? I can see the two pokemons discussing Tetris in front of me
Paradox what is your current record  playing with lapsis peices?

Paradox

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Paradox what is your current record  playing with lapsis peices?
nothing good
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Paul676

I don't think records where the same pieces are used more than once should count as records - people can get far faster times by just being familiar with the piece structure if they play the same order for 5 hours or more than actual tetris, which is free play.
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belzebub

Quote from: Paradox
nothing good

I can't stop looking at your replay file it's so amazing you did it on such a short time.

Quote from: Paul676
I don't think records where the same pieces are used more than once should count as records - people can get far faster times by just being familiar with the piece structure if they play the same order for 5 hours or more than actual tetris, which is free play.

Of course they are not records. It was intended as training/practice, but actually it looks like it is becoming a new discipline to measure your finger speed capabilities :-D Paradox is amazing...

XaeL

I'm sure it would be very easy to create a piece sequence and use it all the time, hence being fakz0r. I dont' think it would be feasible to detect such a thing. oh well.



QuoteLike many setups here, it is useful if your opponent doesn't move and you get 4 Ts in a row.

Zircean

You can check which randomizer someone is using and if you've seen the same seed in another replay before (it's fairly unlikely you'll see the same seed twice, expected wait for that is 4.3 billion games or so?)

Potentially this could end badly if you edit the randomizer source, but then the replay wouldn't play in stock NullpoMino.
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XaeL

Quote from: Zircean
You can check which randomizer someone is using and if you've seen the same seed in another replay before (it's fairly unlikely you'll see the same seed twice, expected wait for that is 4.3 billion games or so?)

Potentially this could end badly if you edit the randomizer source, but then the replay wouldn't play in stock NullpoMino.


depends if randomizer customization makes it to an official release of course.



QuoteLike many setups here, it is useful if your opponent doesn't move and you get 4 Ts in a row.

MarioThePhenom

if you hold during the line clear delay of tetris friends, wouldnt that act as is you never even used it?

Quote from: PandaLol no, that's ludacris. I have a sentence generator, Blink....

XaeL

Quote from: MarioThePhenom
if you hold during the line clear delay of tetris friends, wouldnt that act as is you never even used it?
IHS.



QuoteLike many setups here, it is useful if your opponent doesn't move and you get 4 Ts in a row.