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Posted by: chopin Jun 13 2010, 08:48 PM

Okay, so I put together a twist and spin guide for you guys. By no means is this all of them. Some of these may take a while to learn, so be patient and play a lot of Marathon. smartass.gif






You can also right click this link and 'save as' for a higher quality version.
http://www.harddrop.com/file/Chopin's%20Twist%20Guide.avi

Mistakes EDIT:
-T-Spin Double at 6:30 is rotate Left, not Right
-I-Spin Tetris at 8:45 is Right-Right-Left, not Right-Left-Right

Posted by: Blink Jun 13 2010, 08:54 PM

very well made chopin! thanks for this, i need it.

Posted by: jujube Jun 13 2010, 09:29 PM

how long is the video chopin? is it youtubable?

Posted by: jennr246 Jun 13 2010, 09:52 PM

Chopin, very nice video and very well made. Will definitely help me to learn all the twists. Maybe someday even the unusual ones.

Thanks!

Posted by: meow Jun 14 2010, 12:34 AM

nice guide!

3:45 - left-left, right-right, right-left will work. right-left will only work if the left wall is 3 blocks high or more.

Posted by: Hypofreakk Jun 14 2010, 03:23 AM

Nice video Chopin. biggrin.gif I finally know why some of my Z-Spins never work. Very nice guide smile.gif

Posted by: Arias Jun 14 2010, 05:34 AM

Bravo, Chopin. Bravo.

I did the last t-spin double in Live by accident and never understood it. Thanks to you I don't have to explain it in words again.

Posted by: clincher Jun 14 2010, 03:40 PM

Great guide!
Hopefully now people will finally learn twists

Posted by: massi4h Jun 15 2010, 03:27 AM

Nice guide chopin I like it. Nice fancyness at the end and there are a couple of different spins in your video that I should start incorporating into my game. Aren't there some s/z spins (probably others) that require you to double rotate (like I think if you have a smaller wall to kick)? Or maybe it's just me rotating the wrong way in the first place.

Posted by: chopin Jun 15 2010, 05:16 AM

QUOTE(massi4h @ Jun 14 2010, 10:27 PM) *

Nice guide chopin I like it. Nice fancyness at the end and there are a couple of different spins in your video that I should start incorporating into my game. Aren't there some s/z spins (probably others) that require you to double rotate (like I think if you have a smaller wall to kick)? Or maybe it's just me rotating the wrong way in the first place.


Actually, maybe. I have to fidget awhile when doing a SST/ZST when the kick is only two blocks high. Someone should figure it out and let us know.

Posted by: Paul676 Jun 15 2010, 08:25 AM

Nice one, really well made. Someone should make a video guide on what to look for and what blocks to use to set these things up!

Posted by: chopin Jun 20 2010, 03:01 AM

QUOTE(massi4h @ Jun 14 2010, 10:27 PM) *

Nice guide chopin I like it. Nice fancyness at the end and there are a couple of different spins in your video that I should start incorporating into my game. Aren't there some s/z spins (probably others) that require you to double rotate (like I think if you have a smaller wall to kick)? Or maybe it's just me rotating the wrong way in the first place.


Okay, I think I got it. If you're doing a SST/ZST with a wall kick, you pre-rotate right, then left left. An easier way is to just spam left/right, but this is the right way if I'm not mistaken.

And for the mirror image you do the opposite. Pre-rotate left, soft drop, right, right.


Posted by: jujube Jul 17 2010, 02:47 PM

oh, i didn't realize you put it on youtube chopin. i just watched for the first time. you did a great job with it biggrin.gif

Posted by: Someone2knoe Jul 23 2010, 08:25 PM

we should have an official harddrop youtube channel, with amazing tetris tutorials that members could submit to be used.

Posted by: jujube Oct 25 2010, 12:31 AM

why didn't you tell me I-spins were so weird! oh wait, you did. good show.

Posted by: Air Nov 4 2010, 03:14 AM

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Posted by: Maii04 Nov 4 2010, 03:32 AM

Very informative biggrin.gif

Posted by: chopin Nov 4 2010, 03:38 AM

I think that the I-spin Tetris at 8:45 is Right-Right-Left, not Right-Left-Right lol. I should have proofread the thing. Feel free to let me know if I made any other mistakes.

Posted by: larrytetris Nov 5 2010, 08:13 AM

QUOTE(chopin @ Nov 4 2010, 03:38 AM) *
let me know if I made any other mistakes.


I think you misspelled "super awesome tetris player Larry" at 0:03 and instead typoed "Chopin" rolleyes.gif

But yeah, great guide! Helped me learn the roofless S/Z spin triple that I now use to get out of tricky situations in KoS happy.gif

Posted by: donggyu Jul 10 2011, 09:10 PM

I cant do the one at 3:48, and I need it sometime during perfect clearing. Help please? Foot In Mouth.png

Posted by: Pikiwedia Jul 10 2011, 09:13 PM

QUOTE(donggyu @ Jul 10 2011, 11:10 PM) *

I cant do the one at 3:48, and I need it sometime during perfect clearing. Help please? Foot In Mouth.png


Pre-rotate counter-clockwise (left rotate), soft drop it all the way down until it touches the piece, then rotate left again.

You HAVE to pre-rotate correctly, this is where most people fail.

Posted by: Pheeb Jul 13 2011, 03:08 AM

I enjoyed that tutorial very much. More versions of tetris should reward the various mino spins. It inspires more spectacular play. Yay tetris.

Posted by: Pheeb Jul 22 2011, 05:17 PM

At 9:28 in the guide there is a TSD dubbed the "Trehalose." When I found this guide I searching for a fumen that demonstrated this move. I never did locate one so I have created my own. This fumen illustrates the Trehalose as a start with the first 2 bags. This is my first attempt at creating a fumen, so hopefully it works alright.

http://harddrop.com/fumen/?m110@7eRDXIylB1nBEbB/jBGZBJQBVdB5RBzQBSIB0GBmBB?/9AlucltcNXBAAA


Posted by: Chopin Jul 23 2011, 05:54 AM

Yes, that is correct. There are actually numerous Trehalose setups out there. The Trephalose is merely a FIN TSD followed by a NEO TSD setup. There are actually ones that don't consume any T's in the build surprisingly. Larry knows of one, and I had one too but I can't seem to remember it at the moment ;D

Remember that you can also do the spin like this:

Posted by: Pheeb Jul 23 2011, 05:23 PM

Oh! That is a wonderful point. I tickles me when players demonstrate their understanding of rotation by making the tetriminoes do a little dance before locking them. I have so much to learn. Thank-you. Thumbs Up.png

Posted by: belzebub Aug 14 2011, 09:41 PM

I could not reproduce the I twist on 8:53 and I made a fumen of it, afterwards I turned out to be a retard, because it was already mentioned in the post. (I just looked it up on Youtube).

What I find interesting on this one is that the I is regarded as if it is in top position (0), even after two right rotations.

Here is the fumen:



I have deep respect for Chopin and there must be a lot of work gone into making this video. Chopin is a hero to me!

Posted by: Mr11048284011 Aug 24 2011, 10:08 AM



You did an awesome job putting this vid together! it's been really informative.

thanks!

Posted by: electrofry Nov 6 2011, 10:06 AM

we need an o-spin double guide. i can never get it right

Posted by: Alexandra May 20 2014, 10:00 PM

wow this is really nice. especially since you tell us which way to rotate the blocks.

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