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Posted by: Blink Apr 21 2012, 04:52 AM
A few things need to be addressed pertaining to streaming etiquette. While you are streaming on Harddrop's streaming account you are representing our Harddrop community.
Therefore, you must be:
1. Respectful of the game.
2. Respectful of the players.
3. Keep the language and background music appropriate for an audience of any age.
4. Keep your stream related to Tetris, and any commentary should be on topic.
Violators will be issued a warning for their first offense, but any repeat offenses may lead to the revoking of stream privileges.
If you cannot follow through with these rules, then stream on your own private account and go ahead do whatever you please. But while you are using HD's account, you are representing HD.
Our stream: http://twitch.tv/harddrop
Posted by: Parkzer Apr 21 2012, 08:27 AM
I decided I would chime in and add a few things that are relevant to the live stream.
For those who don't know me, I'm the host of the weekly live stream show, Tetris Arena Live with Parkzer. It's become quite a hit lately, touting at least a couple thousand replay views per episode (which I think is decent for something that I started so recently).
I normally stream and cast with my buddy Maks - you guys may know him better as Ukrainian4Life. Of course, he does have other responsibilities and commitments, and is not able to make it to every stream; in these scenarios, I have allowed other people to guest commentate with me. I also have a few people who are wanting to do this when the spot becomes open. Unfortunately, excluding a select handful of veteran casters and commentators, I have decided not to have guest casters anymore.
Blink is taking a more polite approach when posting these etiquette guidelines, but I have a straightforward and direct personality. In non-sugar-coated terms, we want to make sure we can trust you. In cocky terms, we want you to prove yourself worthy before letting you participate in something that thousands of people will see and associate directly with Hard Drop.
Of course, when Tetris Tournament Online II comes around, there will be many opportunities for everyone to try out commentating, no matter what their style or skill level. If you would like to be recognized during this time, there are clearly many ways you can practice and improve, but I will leave one word of advice / guideline:
Behave yourself in a manner to which you want your audience to parallel.
In simpler terms, portray yourself with emotions that you want your audience to also feel. Humans have this intriguing tendency of synchronization and empathy - when we see someone feel a certain way, we tend to mirror it onto ourselves. This doesn't mean you necessarily have to act happy or excited the entire time. Obviously, everyone has their own, unique style of commentating. Just make sure your unique style isn't that of a hater, someone unhumorously and excessively critical, or overall just someone negative.
For example, if you're a shoutcaster like me, you commentate in an extremely excited, fast-paced, high-action manner. The audience watching will start to feel your emotions, also become excited about the game, and feel as if the things that are going on are of high intensity. They feel good because their brain is being stimulated by many different things in a short period of time.
If you're a calmer and more analytical commentator, you commentate in a more intelligent manner. The audience will start to feel your emotions, also feel as if they have an insight of what is happening in the game, feel smarter, and feel better about themselves when it comes to various aspects of the game.
That's all for now. Again, apologies to the people who were hoping to cast with me in the future.
Posted by: Blink Apr 28 2012, 11:26 PM
I've changed the streaming password because I didn't really know how many people had the password before.
I've also added another rule to the streaming etiquette:
Keep your stream related to Tetris, and any commentary should be on topic.
I've seen people streaming Starcraft in the past, League of Legends (me), and Portal but honestly that should be done on your own channels. I've also seen commentary where it's just two people talking about random things and then occasionally refocusing on the match they were supposed to commentate.
If you would like to be one of our regular streamers just PM me for the password. Also, if you stream regularly feel free to make a post advertising your weekly show times.
I plan on streaming weekly soon, once I can figure out how to organize my show.
Posted by: benmullen Apr 29 2012, 02:29 AM
good ideas... I wondered about the portal i was seeing the other day haha. Ya know what might be a good idea; like a publicly viewable calandar of who is streaming what and when that folks could throw their names into (i assume a google calandar or something). Reasons being 2 fold: 1) well all know when people are doing stuff, if they put it on there and 2) we wont accidentally hyjack the thing when important stuff needs to be streamed (this is always my trepidation lol)
people woulnt need to enter times before hand, it would just help people know if something is already slated to be stremed if it were a "planned in advance" thing.
Posted by: Paradox Apr 29 2012, 04:13 AM
we already have a calendar but its not embedded here and probably not being used
Posted by: benmullen Apr 29 2012, 01:48 PM
oh ic... well in that case it was prolly a good idea once that was given up on, In which case i feel vindicated hahaha. But if it was given up on, there were likely equally good reasons for that. Speaking of which, if there is a new password, can i have it. Immuna try and break my recent tetris slump with some win 
Posted by: Paradox Apr 29 2012, 11:04 PM
oh ic... well in that case it was prolly a good idea once that was given up on, In which case i feel vindicated hahaha. But if it was given up on, there were likely equally good reasons for that.
blink hasn't embedded it anywhere so its useless :o. other than that its good
Posted by: ohitsstef Apr 30 2012, 02:11 AM
blink hasn't embedded it anywhere so its useless :o. other than that its good
when was this calender decided?
if it wasn't a few days ago - there will be a new calender in place and posted.
Posted by: Paradox Apr 30 2012, 02:14 AM
when was this calender decided?
2 months or something
Posted by: ohitsstef Apr 30 2012, 02:18 AM
2 months or something
there's going to be a new schedule - and only selective people will be able to stream - that's why the password got changed
and welcome back, paradox
Posted by: myndzi Apr 30 2012, 04:54 AM
(Paradox, Aaron)
Both of you know better.
On topic posts only, please.
Posted by: Paradox Apr 30 2012, 08:50 AM
(Paradox, Aaron)
Both of you know better.
On topic posts only, please.
sorry boss ur right im leaving anyway
Posted by: benmullen May 1 2012, 03:17 PM
there's going to be a new schedule - and only selective people will be able to stream - that's why the password got changed
and welcome back, paradox
How selective we talking? I would love to bring some NES love into the stream (i tryed it like 3 times). If I may be a chosen one I would love to stream some Classic stuff now and again
Posted by: virulent May 1 2012, 03:22 PM
i think NES tetris would be considered on topic n i would love to see it 
Posted by: ohitsstef May 1 2012, 08:39 PM
How selective we talking? I would love to bring some NES love into the stream (i tryed it like 3 times). If I may be a chosen one I would love to stream some Classic stuff now and again
atm I think streaming is going to be closed to streamers who are professional - not paid professional.. just professional in their behavior - so at the top of my head, streams must be tetris related and not have any sort of condescending commentary.
i don't think commentary will be necessary, but it'd make the streams a lot more interesting.
but let's see what other things Blink is looking for in a streamer.
Posted by: Parkzer May 10 2012, 05:38 AM
There is an official streaming calendar. It's been around since the beginning of March 2012, but few people knew that it existed and it wasn't publicized much, which is why nobody was aware of it.
Blink has added a link to the calendar at the top-right corner of the forums, to the right of the breadcrumbs and between your personal bar and search form. In case you accidentally stabbed yourself in the eyes with a carrot and can't find the link, it's also here:
https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=0a0ic4fvnhkqtq993g0pqqlqfk%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Los_Angeles
If you would like me to add an event to the calendar for you, send me a Hard Drop private message with details about your event. You should include a title, short description, date and time in PST, client/clone on which the game will be played, game participants, and who you have planned/coordinated to be the streamer/commentator(s).
Although I'm not active on the forums much (as you can probably tell by my epic post count), I get email notifications for new private messages, so I'll be able to tend to your request within a few hours.
Posted by: benmullen May 11 2012, 02:31 PM
the raises a question for me. As i start to begin another push towards a maxout in NES Tetris I think it would be fun to stream it once in a while.
But all these things; the notion of it being an "event", even having a title, participants, or commenter would be lacking... Although i rekon I would commet as i play.
So basically it would be just a guy, me, playing some NES rather than a large eventish type of thing. I wonder if this fits the mold?
Posted by: coolmaninsano May 11 2012, 05:00 PM
That's all we did really before TTO and everyone "needed" commentary on each match. Just the streamer playing some single player or streaming some random multiplayer or whatever.
Posted by: Rosti_LFC May 20 2012, 11:41 PM
Guys, if you're going to stream, change the channel title before you do so.
Frankly, there's a lot of streamed content that I don't really care about, or at least don't care enough to bother to watch. On the other hand, there are some things that I probably would be interested in. The thing is, when I get a subscription alert saying the channel is streaming I have no fu**ing way of knowing what I'd be watching if I tuned in without actually going to the effort of doing so. All I get is the standard "HardDrop.com Broadcasting Live" crap.
Twitch gives you a feature to let you tell subscribers what your content is going to be from the title. It's in the dashboard. fu**ing use it.
And if you're using XSplit (and I assume most/all of you are) then it's even easier because there's a damn "Announce" tab in the menu bar of the program and you can do it right from that.
I feel there's a basic professionalism and responsibility required using the stream, and this sort of thing is seriously not difficult and I would expect would make a huge difference to the number of people who watch (and also potentially help work out what sort of stuff actually pulls live viewers). If people are going to stream and spam my inbox twice a day then it'd be nice to at least know what is being streamed, and it's an extremely basic thing to do.
Posted by: ohitsstef May 21 2012, 02:16 AM
Guys, if you're going to stream, change the channel title before you do so.
Frankly, there's a lot of streamed content that I don't really care about, or at least don't care enough to bother to watch. On the other hand, there are some things that I probably would be interested in. The thing is, when I get a subscription alert saying the channel is streaming I have no fu**ing way of knowing what I'd be watching if I tuned in without actually going to the effort of doing so. All I get is the standard "HardDrop.com Broadcasting Live" crap.
Twitch gives you a feature to let you tell subscribers what your content is going to be from the title. It's in the dashboard. fu**ing use it.
And if you're using XSplit (and I assume most/all of you are) then it's even easier because there's a damn "Announce" tab in the menu bar of the program and you can do it right from that.
I feel there's a basic professionalism and responsibility required using the stream, and this sort of thing is seriously not difficult and I would expect would make a huge difference to the number of people who watch (and also potentially help work out what sort of stuff actually pulls live viewers). If people are going to stream and spam my inbox twice a day then it'd be nice to at least know what is being streamed, and it's an extremely basic thing to do.
I agree on this 100%. It's annoying whenever I check up on HD's twitter, every so often, to see 5 tweets about stream but no title to them. Adam started putting up titles, and I hope everyone else who has access to the stream will start doing so. Otherwise it looks like spam on our Twitter feed.
Also I have to add this on, if you're a new member and you want to commentate.. we're not stopping you from joining in on the commentary, however, you must know the game. If we're giving you instructions on how to get onto the game or you obviously have never played the game.. or don't know the game, why would we want you to commentate with us? There's a reason why the streaming channel is not open to just everyone now, we want quality streams and commentary on our channel.
Posted by: Paul676 Aug 12 2012, 12:30 AM
RE: tonight - whatever happened to this?
RE: future - will this be stuck to?
Posted by: Blink Aug 14 2012, 02:09 AM
Let's enforce these rules. Some people are dissatisfied w/ the quality of the commentating on last week's TTO matches. To whoever is streaming: make sure not anyone who asks to commentate is allowed to do so, only pick the ones who you know will do a good job.
Posted by: Blink Jun 23 2013, 04:06 AM
Heads up for all HD streamers, Twitch changed people's stream keys so make sure to use the new one when you log in and go here:
http://www.twitch.tv/broadcast
Click "Show Key" and put it in OBS.
Posted by: ohitsstef Mar 3 2014, 04:53 PM
I'm bumping this for the streamers of HD - please familiarize yourself with the rules and etiquette posted in the OP.
Please be sure to watch your tongue on the stream, even if a lot of people do not watch the streams the videos are saved on the account for a few days. Swearing and talking trash about other members on the stream are not allowed.
Also, because a lot of people complained about the lack of Tetris related streams, please refrain from streaming anything other than Tetris. If you want to stream another game, please do it on your own channel. We do not want to make it seem like we've lost interest in Tetris. This is a Tetris community.
If anyone has anything else to say about streaming etiquette please post it down below.
Posted by: StS Mar 3 2014, 05:26 PM
Also, because a lot of people complained about the lack of Tetris related streams, please refrain from streaming anything other than Tetris. If you want to stream another game, please do it on your own channel.
We do not want to make it seem like we've lost interest in Tetris. This is a Tetris community. Is this aimed at Blink? >_>
Posted by: ohitsstef Mar 3 2014, 05:28 PM
Is this aimed at Blink? >_>
Yes hehe
even the admin has to follow his own rules
Posted by: Blink Nov 8 2014, 10:11 AM
I'm retaking control over the stream channel with TU approaching. Instead of multiple members having the password, I'll share the stream key with those who want to stream. This way people don't have access to account settings and other things that they shouldn't.
PM me if you want a streamkey
Posted by: derder Nov 9 2014, 02:21 AM
I'm retaking control over the stream channel with TU approaching. Instead of multiple members having the password, I'll share the stream key with those who want to stream. This way people don't have access to account settings and other things that they shouldn't.
PM me if you want a streamkey
You should also consider making the people with a stream key also a moderater (so we could deal with potential spam etc.) as well as an editor, so they can edit the stream title (I would like to have a more detailed stream title in my email and not just "Tetris") and perhaps highlight some good moments of the session
Posted by: Blink Nov 9 2014, 02:37 AM
Okay, also post your Twitch usernames for moderator status.
Posted by: derder Nov 9 2014, 02:57 PM
Okay, also post your Twitch usernames for moderator status.
Don't forget to add them to the editor list too, e.g. if I wanted to stream Tetris now I couldn't change the title (which suggests LoL instead of Tetris) and also couldn't change the game, which is gauntlet atm. This would basically result in people searching for Tetris not getting on the channel and a possible stream shut down from the twitch staff.
Posted by: perfectclear Nov 9 2014, 05:19 PM
twitch username: perfectclear
Posted by: Sisu Jan 6 2015, 08:03 PM
http://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/questions/4450042-stream-keys-and-ps4
^ old post but seems to still be true. any known workaround?
EDIT:
http://www.twitch.tv/bosteil aka http://harddrop.com/boblaze
http://www.twitch.tv/joshualtolles aka http://harddrop.com/Joshua_Tolles
http://www.twitch.tv/bdcowe aka http://harddrop.com/BDCowe
welcome aboard!
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