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Posted by: caffeine Oct 8 2013, 04:18 PM
There are no wrong questions! However, try to keep it Tetris-related. (That's what we know best)
- This thread is mostly for simple and quick questions. For more in-depth Tetris-related subjects, a new topic might be more appropriate. If you're not sure, post here anyway!
- Q: Where's a good place to start learning how to improve in Tetris?
A: Check out http://harddrop.com/wiki/Main_Page or the http://harddrop.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4143.
Q: What does [insert Tetris term here] mean?
A: Check out http://harddrop.com/wiki/Glossary. If it's not there, please ask in this thread so we'll know to add it into the glossary!
Q: Does anyone offer 1 on 1 coaching lessons?
A: Post a request here, and someone might be available to help you.
Q: What kind of keyboard layout do the best players use?
A: Take a gander at http://harddrop.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5572
Q: How do I find more content related to my question?
A: http://harddrop.com/forums/index.php?&act=Search is very helpful.
- Your help is very much appreciated. Thank you!
- Anyone can answer questions.
- "Just practice some more" is not allowed!
- The best answers exhibit evidence, reasoning, and personal accounts of past experiences.
Posted by: yotipo91 Oct 11 2013, 09:28 AM
Help me! I want to improve my multiplayer skills. My request may sound vague, but I'm sure there are a few tips that you can help me with.
This is my Tetris Online Poland graph
http://puu.sh/4NbGm.jpg
I prefer TKI or TSpin Mini openers, I think I downstack fairly efficiently, but it still baffles me that some players can average 80+ APM. Is there a certain field I can focus on training to achieve a greater APM? I think I'm known for being aggressive, but also hesitant when a clear DS solution is unavailable.
I want to improve my attack/speed ratio. I'm currently at 1.096. I see other players on TOP with upwards of 1.2 and 1.5
http://puu.sh/4NbS8.jpg
http://puu.sh/4NbTQ.jpg
I figured that it's mostly my decisions that will help me become a more confident, and higher-attacking player, and once I'm certain of the decisions I want to make and how I should react, at that point I can start to go faster. In short, how should a 50 APM average TOP player practice to begin hitting 60 APM average?
Posted by: ohitsstef Oct 11 2013, 01:01 PM
Quick solution: You can ask woj to reset your chart. Then see how your chart looks like now, because the TOP chart takes an average of all of your games. If you didn't play well at first it affects your chart.. even if you play well now.
Posted by: poopmo Oct 11 2013, 01:18 PM
You clearly need to do more B2B's. A simple way to do this is to try and get into situations like this;
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?m110@adB3kbD3ibH3gbI3gbI3gbI3gbI3gbG3gbI3gbF3pb?A4G
the tetris set up might come from your garbage, but could also be something you build. What really helps is to stack for tetrises in the middle (not dead center, just not on the sides), because they always give the option of building a t-spin on top. Once you have this down you just have to pay attention to saving up your pieces, keep holding your T piece till you get your stick (or vice versa) and then do a quick B2B. This might seem basic but its what really pushed me to +70apm where before I could only get 65-68. My stats on TOP now are 49lpm-75apm.
Posted by: Master Oct 11 2013, 11:18 PM
here is my keyboard settings
Left/Right: Left/Right
Soft Drop: down
Hard Drop: space bar
Rotate Left: Ctrl
Rotate Right: Up
Hold : shift
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IF I SHOULD CHANGE MY KEYBOARD SETTINGS ? 
(current sprint time : 27.33 in nullpomino )
(here is a picture of my keyboard ) 
Posted by: caffeine Oct 11 2013, 11:42 PM
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IF I SHOULD CHANGE MY KEYBOARD SETTINGS ?
Why do you think you need to? If you want to play faster, I do not believe it will help you. There are plenty of world class 40 liners who use similar controls as yours. In my opinion, the only real reason to change your keys is if you're concerned about ergonomics, RSI, etc. (And people should be concerned about that stuff!) If your hands hurt, and you're already practicing proper typing ergonomics, then your key bindings might be to blame. If so, the http://harddrop.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2983 would be a good start.
Posted by: UJS3 Oct 12 2013, 07:00 AM
I heard keeping the rightmost column open for tetrises in 40L is better than the left side, can anyone explain?
Posted by: yotipo91 Oct 12 2013, 08:05 AM
I heard keeping the rightmost column open for tetrises in 40L is better than the left side, can anyone explain?
The general idea is that since 5 of 7 tetrominos are 3 wide pieces which spawn favoring the left side of the field, it's more efficient to stack towards the left, shaving off a few double keytaps in ideal circumstances assuming you're adept with finesse.
@Poopmo, thanks for the tips. I'll be sure to focus on that a bit more.
Posted by: UJS3 Oct 12 2013, 12:43 PM
Thanks! When I have the time, I think I'll play a sprint game and compare the number of keypresses with the mirrored version.
Posted by: MarioThePhenom Oct 12 2013, 01:11 PM
I heard keeping the rightmost column open for tetrises in 40L is better than the left side, can anyone explain?
i believe i read somewhere that the difference is tiny, nothing to awe over. imo, the reason we keep the hole on the right is cause we read left to right so its natural, but that doesn't hold true for every language
either way left stacker 4 life
Posted by: caffeine Oct 12 2013, 02:20 PM
In the past, players would use whatever side the I-piece rotated to in the vertical position. (Column 5 = left side, column 6 = right). This made the I-piece's journey that much shorter to the tetrising column. This could really help as the game speeded up.
Nowadays, games let you rotate into either column depending on which rotation button you use. All placements can be achieved with two movements or less. The "hot zones" that tend to require more key presses on average are those one or two columns away from the sides.
It may be the case that Tetrising on the left might theoretically save key presses. The reason I say that is due to column 8. Columns 2 and 9 are hot zones because they almost always require two movements (mostly autorepeat to the wall + once back). However, which side you stack on doesn't matter since you'll have that problem on one side either way you go.
Columns 3 and 8 lack the same type of symmetry. Pieces spawn closer to 3, so you can get there with one key press instead of two. You might point out how pieces spawn closer to 2 than 9, but that doesn't matter as much when you have to autorepeat to the wall for both cases and are forced into two movements.
So, the reason I think Tetrising on the left side might save keys is due to how it allows column 10 placements other than the vertical I-piece. You can stack 3-wide pieces horizontally there with one movement (autorepeat to the wall). As a result, you're getting minos on column 8 without needing as many key presses. This might happen naturally, or it might not have much of an effect at all. In any case, I think the difference would be very small.
Posted by: Flatlandr Nov 30 2013, 03:34 AM
Hello everyone. I am new to the Tetris community, but I was wondering if anyone has ever created a Tetris game in which the boards are non-rectangular? (not all columns are of even height).
This journal made me think that it might be interesting to play in other well-sizes.
http://euclid.trentu.ca/aejm/V4N1/Tsuruda.V4N1.pdf
If not, would programming a version of variant tetris provide any challenges not found in programming a regular tetris variant? I am quite curious, but lack much programming experience.
Posted by: Integration Nov 30 2013, 09:01 AM
You mean unclearable minos/squares/blocks at the bottom? If a line is completed, all minos but the unclearable ones disappear? I've never seen that. The problem is that if you stay at the bottom, then you could fill a line with less pieces. So it is not suited for multiplayer. For singleplayer I could imagine a usage though:
It's easier to make sidestacked Tetrises (Tetris column on the wall). However, if you have unclearable minos on the wall, you must stack higher to make sidestacked Tetrises. This gives you more pressure under high gravity. You could also force people to make midstacked Tetrises by making them score higher than sidestacked Tetrises.
Another usage is to choose an uneven number of unclearable minos. Normally, the number of minos is always even in a mode without garbage or maps (sidestacked 4-wide with 3 residue is a technique based on that). With an uneven number of unclearable minos the total number of minos in a matrix would switch between even and uneven.
There are other ways to vary Tetris. Hold/ no hold, randomizer, number of previews, enter garbage lines from time to time etc. Some games don't even use 10 columns. For example Tetrinet and Blockles did use 12 columns; Tetris Monster RPG and Dream of Pixels use 8 columns, NullpoMino Big Mode use 5 columns. I think 9-11 columns are ideal. Less columns means less options/less depths; more columns makes stacking without holes too easy.
Posted by: Antifate Nov 30 2013, 11:27 AM
here is my keyboard settings
Left/Right: Left/Right
Soft Drop: down
Hard Drop: space bar
Rotate Left: Ctrl
Rotate Right: Up
Hold : shift
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IF I SHOULD CHANGE MY KEYBOARD SETTINGS ?
(current sprint time : 27.33 in nullpomino )
(here is a picture of my keyboard )
I have to say that I find your layout quite awkward. Maybe you have monster hands, but I would rearrange what your left hand is doing. Hitting ctrl/shift (presumably with your pinky/ring) isn't the best especially when you also aim to hit the relatively distant space bar frequently (can stress your fingers). Similarly, having rotate above soft drop (both presumably hit with the middle finger) will make spins more stressful as your middle finger might need to do up to 3 consecutive actions. These issues aren't that important in pure sprinting though. But when you're doing a lot of spins/holding in multiplayer, you will be putting your fingers through some unnecessary work.
Posted by: Flatlandr Dec 1 2013, 06:11 AM
You mean unclearable minos/squares/blocks at the bottom? If a line is completed, all minos but the unclearable ones disappear? I've never seen that. The problem is that if you stay at the bottom, then you could fill a line with less pieces. So it is not suited for multiplayer. For singleplayer I could imagine a usage though:
Yes, this is exactly what i meant! Good points about the multiplayer, but I was envisioning it in single player anyways.
The scoring would be interesting to tweak with as well. I may attempt to program something this winter break, but it's been a while since I've been in a programming class so it will be a long process I am sure haha.
Posted by: lcz74 Dec 2 2013, 02:36 PM
I want to ask something about Texmaster Tetris
About Special Ti Mode..
How to up grade fast?
Should I do fast tetrises or ... ?
Thanks 
Posted by: Extruderx Dec 2 2013, 02:48 PM
In Special Ti, you have two main ways to get grades. You should use both to get the highest ranks.
1) Each time you get a section COOL (this is achieved by getting a good section time, like clearing the 0-100 section with the time faster than 52 sec) you also get +1 grade. Try to get as much COOL's as you can, but each COOL will speed up the game and raise the difficulty.
2) Second system is like in Special, it's based on your score and uses point decay(it's a bit complicated). To get high score, you generally should try to play faster and make more tetrises. There is a combo multiplier; you can get a high combo and it will boost your score, but don't rely much on it.
When you clear 999, you are presented to a credits roll with pieces disappearing at a different pace based on how well you have played before. Making a Tetris during this time will boost your grade a bit, while clearing the entire roll boosts your final rank significantly.
Source: http://harddrop.com/wiki/Tetris_The_Grand_Master_3_Terror-Instinct
Posted by: Master Dec 2 2013, 03:49 PM
I have to say that I find your layout quite awkward. Maybe you have monster hands, but I would rearrange what your left hand is doing. Hitting ctrl/shift (presumably with your pinky/ring) isn't the best especially when you also aim to hit the relatively distant space bar frequently (can stress your fingers). Similarly, having rotate above soft drop (both presumably hit with the middle finger) will make spins more stressful as your middle finger might need to do up to 3 consecutive actions. These issues aren't that important in pure sprinting though. But when you're doing a lot of spins/holding in multiplayer, you will be putting your fingers through some unnecessary work.
thank you ..
Posted by: lcz74 Dec 6 2013, 08:27 AM
Hello
It's me again
Is it any possible to play Texmaster using Arcade stick?
Thanks again 
Hello
It's me again
Is it any possible to play Texmaster using Arcade stick?
Thanks again
Posted by: djackallstar Dec 17 2013, 06:53 AM
Hello,
Does anyone know how to get the replay links (with various modes) of personal best records on TF?
Thanks in advance.
Posted by: caffeine Dec 17 2013, 03:00 PM
@Icz74
One way to do it is to use http://joytokey.net/en/.
@djackallstar
If you're trying to find the replays of a particular player, try using Google's "site:" operator. Type this into Google:
You can replace "hd_blink" with any Tetris Friends username. The top link will usually be the player's profile page. From there, you can see his records. Click on "View Details" to watch replays. (If you're still having an issue, try disabling any ad blocker you have.) You can also view top records by navigating to "Community" > "Leaderboard."
Posted by: djackallstar Dec 17 2013, 03:57 PM
@djackallstar
If you're trying to find the replays of a particular player, try using Google's "site:" operator. Type this into Google:
You can replace "hd_blink" with any Tetris Friends username. The top link will usually be the player's profile page. From there, you can see his records. Click on "View Details" to watch replays. (If you're still having an issue, try disabling any ad blocker you have.) You can also view top records by navigating to "Community" > "Leaderboard."
Oops, it seems I didn't make the question clear...
What I want are direct links to watching replays without the need to click anything else.
It is because I want to show replays to my Japanese friends
who can't, or are unwilling to, read English at all.
Fortunately (!) by using the method you proposed, I was able to find such a link. (*1)
For example, if I want to let my friends see my best sprint replay, here is the link:
"http://www.tetrisfriends.com/leaderboard/ajax/user_stats.php?&username=Grand_Rookie&userId=4429980&productId=84"
The "username" parameter is optional. The username will be shown on top of the screen if provided.
The "userId" parameter is required, which is the unique identifier for a specific user.
The "productId" parameter is required, which determines which game mode to show,
and Its value can be found by viewing the raw HTML text in the corresponding game mode page.
Thanks again caffeine.
References:
(1) http://www.tetrisfriends.com/leaderboard/ajax/user_stats.php?username=Carolyn&value=28702&productId=84&userId=378062
Posted by: nostalgianinja Mar 11 2014, 05:12 PM
Quick Question: How would it be possible to cut down Piece dependencies? My problems are with I, J and L pieces.
Posted by: caffeine Mar 11 2014, 06:18 PM
That's actually a pretty complex topic. I http://tetrisconcept.com/upstacking/ Piece dependencies result mainly from a) disconnecting surfaces (towers and trenches), and b) creating surfaces that aren't amenable to all pieces (or, the little they do lead to awkward results). Towers, trenches, awkward surfaces, etc., in turn, lead to the need to create 2-deep (or higher) 1-column trenches. Those require I/L/J-piece to fix.
Try to pay attention to unnecessary disconnects (i.e. a difference in height between two surfaces greater than 1), while allowing a comfortable position for any given piece.
Posted by: KILLJEFFREY Apr 4 2014, 08:06 PM
I am curious if anyone would like to coach me. I have plateaued more or less at rank 15 in TF. Currently learning finesse in Nullpo. I love C2.
I would mainly be interested in increasing my speed (improving my look ahead would probably do that, so, we can work on that). Sprint time is 1:06 (had a sub one minute before losing the record due to reinstalling my OS). I would like some feedback on my upstacking too.
I live in Texas, timezone is UTC - 6h. Please PM.
Thanks!
Edit: Maybe some feedback on my keyboard layout.
Left hand,
S: Hold with ringer finger
D: Rotate left with middle finger
F: Rotate right with pointer finger
Space: 180 rotate with thumb
Right hand,
J: Left with pointer finger
I: Hard drop with middle finger
K: Soft drop (maybe switch to hard drop?) with middle finger
L: Right with ring finger
Space: 180 with thumb
Posted by: Sisu Apr 21 2014, 06:09 PM
a new topic might be more appropriate. If you're not sure, post here anyway!
QFE
If a hearty discussion breaks out, it can be split off to a new topic
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i'm looking for a clone that allows the use of custom graphics such as:
nullpomino does not support skins of this complexity
Posted by: UJS3 Apr 22 2014, 04:43 PM
In Nullpo, is there a way to slow down a replay, or step through one piece/input/frame at a time? I noticed a "frame step" key in the options, but it doesn't seem to do anything when I hit it while watching a replay.
Posted by: caffeine Apr 23 2014, 03:01 AM
Maybe someone else knows better, but I haven't found a way. What I've been doing is recording the screen to a video file at 60fps. VLC, among others, let you frame step videos.
Posted by: UJS3 Apr 23 2014, 08:20 PM
Hm, too bad. Thanks for the reply though! If anyone has a nice solution, do tell.
Posted by: ohitsstef Apr 23 2014, 09:09 PM
Hm, too bad. Thanks for the reply though! If anyone has a nice solution, do tell.
maybe a way to do this is to export it to a different player and then slow it down manually there?
Posted by: StS Apr 24 2014, 12:47 AM
I know that there's a mod out there somewhere (pretty sure one of belzebub's?) that exports a sprint game to fumen. Not sure exactly how you'd get it to work, but I think this might be useful, somehow.
Posted by: unpronuncyashun2 Apr 24 2014, 03:22 AM
I know that there's a mod out there somewhere (pretty sure one of belzebub's?) that exports a sprint game to fumen. Not sure exactly how you'd get it to work, but I think this might be useful, somehow.
I'm 90% sure you're thinking of Blitz's mod which might be a combination of other mods. harddrop.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5336
Posted by: StS Apr 24 2014, 08:58 PM
I'm 90% sure you're thinking of Blitz's mod which might be a combination of other mods. harddrop.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5336
It might possibly be in there too. I've never used Blitz's compilation, so I'm certain that someone else did it too.
Posted by: UJS3 Apr 24 2014, 10:01 PM
Thanks guys, I might try the fumen export. Since there's a way to speed up replays, it seems like this shouldn't be too difficult to implement. Unfortunately I don't know java
Posted by: KILLJEFFREY May 16 2014, 01:45 AM
BIG shoutout to caffeine for analyzing my personal best sprint. Super easy to contact and replies quickly!
Posted by: thou Jul 6 2014, 04:08 AM
Quick question: If all 5 wall kick tests of SRS fail, is the piece not rotated?
Posted by: caffeine Jul 6 2014, 07:24 PM
Correct. If the natural rotation and the alternatives fail, then nothing happens.
Posted by: DarthDuck Jul 7 2014, 01:22 AM
My aim is to customize the bag sequences so that I can recreate certain kinds of tetris scenarios. I can get into the ruleeditor, but I can't seem to pick my own sequences or make custom rules stick.
Can anyone help with that please/
Posted by: caffeine Jul 7 2014, 05:45 PM
That may not be possible (short of programming your own random generator). Someone else might know better, though. I've always used fumen for that.
Posted by: Blitz Jul 7 2014, 06:03 PM
My aim is to customize the bag sequences so that I can recreate certain kinds of tetris scenarios. I can get into the ruleeditor, but I can't seem to pick my own sequences or make custom rules stick.
Can anyone help with that please/
In ruleeditor, change the randomizer to FixedSequenceRandomizer. What this randomizer does is it looks for a text file named "sequence" in the main folder and loads the sequence from there.
This text file doesnt exist by default so you need to make one. In the nullpomino main folder, create a new text file and name it sequence. In that text file put characters like ILJTOSZOTLIILISOT etc...(must be capitalized). You will get that same sequence every time. Any other than these seven characters will produce a single mino. This trick may be useful if you are trying to recreate a field with an odd number of minos.
Posted by: DarthDuck Jul 8 2014, 09:12 AM
In ruleeditor, change the randomizer to FixedSequenceRandomizer. What this randomizer does is it looks for a text file named "sequence" in the main folder and loads the sequence from there.
Yes thank you very much Blitz. Myndzi had actually answered this for me over skype and I have been playing with this successfully, but this solution was not intuitive to say the least, so it's great to have this information out there. Thanks Blitz! (and mynzdi!)
Comments: Your sequence does not need to be divisible by 7, it will loop any sequence that you feed it. Also, I was not using spaces.
Using I and O I got my 40L down to 22.5, and yes I know some of you are even faster without cheating..., but on a more serious note using this in practice mode has been great. I am trying to test sequences which I've given up on my ability to perfect clear, and by repeating them in practice mode, I can keep trying to find a different way to approach the PC and then maybe see something new.
http://worldthought.com/uploads/gallery/category_14/gallery_89_14_15997.jpg
Posted by: EagleLover58 Aug 7 2014, 01:34 PM
how do you post videos on harddrop I can't figure it out.
Posted by: ohitsstef Aug 7 2014, 02:29 PM
how do you post videos on harddrop I can't figure it out.
http://harddrop.com/account/submit/add-video/mode_stream/
Posted by: nostalgianinja Aug 16 2014, 04:04 PM
I'm getting stuck on a set speed and a set pattern. What can I do to break out of patterns and also improve on my Minos Per Second?
Posted by: Blitz Aug 16 2014, 05:17 PM
I'm getting stuck on a set speed and a set pattern. What can I do to break out of patterns and also improve on my Minos Per Second?
You may find post 1 and 3 here useful for improving your speed. http://harddrop.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4371
To break out of old patterns, learn new ones. Play different game modes so that you need to adapt your playstyle to better achieve the goals of those game modes. If you Tetris stack on the left, try switching it up by stacking on the right instead and vice versa, or try stacking on the sides leaving a hole in the middle. There are no limits to what you can try. If you try new things it should be easier to change your playstyle, simply because your old playstyle may not work very well in other environments.
You can also watch other people play and pick up small things they do that you never thought of.
Posted by: SpawN Aug 25 2014, 09:44 PM
Can someone recommend to me a good keyboard for playing tetris up to $30? I had an old keyboard that i have been using, but i don't feel comfortable playing on it. It certainly isn't optimal. So any good suggestions for cheap and decent keyboards that would be good for playing tetris?
Posted by: caffeine Aug 26 2014, 02:17 PM
Can someone recommend to me a good keyboard for playing tetris up to $30? I had an old keyboard that i have been using, but i don't feel comfortable playing on it. It certainly isn't optimal. So any good suggestions for cheap and decent keyboards that would be good for playing tetris?
http://www.amazon.com/I-ROCKS-KR-6260-BK-Tactile-Ghosting-Keyboard/dp/B00CVT811I/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1409062557&sr=1-3&keywords=keyboard
Posted by: SpawN Aug 26 2014, 07:14 PM
Can someone recommend to me a good keyboard for playing tetris up to $30? I had an old keyboard that i have been using, but i don't feel comfortable playing on it. It certainly isn't optimal. So any good suggestions for cheap and decent keyboards that would be good for playing tetris?
http://www.amazon.com/I-ROCKS-KR-6260-BK-Tactile-Ghosting-Keyboard/dp/B00CVT811I/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1409062557&sr=1-3&keywords=keyboard
It seems like the numpad keys and the arrow keys are not flat. Wouldn't that be a problem? I am using all 4 arrow keys when i play and i am worried that this could be a problem when playing. Are you using this keyboard caffeine?
Posted by: caffeine Aug 26 2014, 09:12 PM
Nope, I use a mechanical keyboard. There doesn't seem to be many good mechanical keyboards at that price range, so that looked like the next best thing. Good luck on your search.
Posted by: SpawN Aug 26 2014, 10:00 PM
Nope, I use a mechanical keyboard. There doesn't seem to be many good mechanical keyboards at that price range, so that looked like the next best thing. Good luck on your search.
I looked at these. They are around 70-80 bucks. Are they really that good and is there really a significant difference playing on mechanical versus a regular rubber one? What`s your take on that?
Posted by: caffeine Aug 26 2014, 11:15 PM
I really like the feel of these "gamer grade" mechanical keyboards out nowadays. However, I don't think they allow me to play any faster than one that comes included with a PC.
Posted by: Antifate Aug 27 2014, 07:01 PM
I've played Tetris on multiple keyboards and keyboard types.
I don't think there is any difference unless you want an easier time tapping (really only applies to TF).
Also, I personally believe you shouldn't buy a keyboard just for Tetris.
Posted by: EagleLover58 Aug 28 2014, 11:28 PM
How do you change your age I put in the wrong one
Posted by: jkwon23 Aug 28 2014, 11:48 PM
From Homepage,
Click My account, -> Settings, then Account settings
http://i.gyazo.com/83492a857d24e13423f3928e0628b426.png
http://i.gyazo.com/85a902bb98066fc1fe6957edefc3e7fa.png
Posted by: SpawN Aug 29 2014, 05:00 AM
Is there any way to change the speed of moving pieces left and right and rotating them on Tetris Online Poland? I find that moving pieces left and right turns out to be very annoying especially, when i don't have to put a piece on the sides. I have to move it square by square on the sides in order to place it where i want. This has been a common feature in other tetris games, but i don't see this in the settings on TOP? Am i missing something?
Posted by: Extruderx Aug 29 2014, 07:01 PM
Start TOPLauncher.exe in the main folder (TetrisOnlinePoland). There you can register an account if not done yet. BTW with http://tetrisonline.pl/tmp/DasPatch.zip you can choose between more autorepeat settings (e.g. autorepeat delay = 95 ms, autorepeat speed = 15 ms) and with http://to-p.tk/tmp/killstars.zip you can get rid of most graphical gimmick (both extracted into your main folder).
how to use:
load the daspatch archive from the hyperlink in the quote
unpack daspatch into your TOP folder
make sure it collides with the "DasPatch" folder in the TOP folder
then open the launcher, go to the options and pick your repeat delay/speed
(15 ms repeat speed seems to be the minimum, so no instant DAS in this game.)
inb4 you might check out http://harddrop.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6277 (made by Blitz)
however, it has a different method of making the DAS values, described in its topic
Posted by: SpawN Aug 30 2014, 10:58 PM
Start TOPLauncher.exe in the main folder (TetrisOnlinePoland). There you can register an account if not done yet. BTW with http://tetrisonline.pl/tmp/DasPatch.zip you can choose between more autorepeat settings (e.g. autorepeat delay = 95 ms, autorepeat speed = 15 ms) and with http://to-p.tk/tmp/killstars.zip you can get rid of most graphical gimmick (both extracted into your main folder).
how to use:
load the daspatch archive from the hyperlink in the quote
unpack daspatch into your TOP folder
make sure it collides with the "DasPatch" folder in the TOP folder
then open the launcher, go to the options and pick your repeat delay/speed
(15 ms repeat speed seems to be the minimum, so no instant DAS in this game.)
inb4 you might check out http://harddrop.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6277 (made by Blitz)
however, it has a different method of making the DAS values, described in its topic
The link is broken. Is there any other place i can download this patch from?
Posted by: jkwon23 Aug 30 2014, 11:34 PM
Start TOPLauncher.exe in the main folder (TetrisOnlinePoland). There you can register an account if not done yet. BTW with http://tetrisonline.pl/tmp/DasPatch.zip you can choose between more autorepeat settings (e.g. autorepeat delay = 95 ms, autorepeat speed = 15 ms) and with http://to-p.tk/tmp/killstars.zip you can get rid of most graphical gimmick (both extracted into your main folder).
how to use:
load the daspatch archive from the hyperlink in the quote
unpack daspatch into your TOP folder
make sure it collides with the "DasPatch" folder in the TOP folder
then open the launcher, go to the options and pick your repeat delay/speed
(15 ms repeat speed seems to be the minimum, so no instant DAS in this game.)
inb4 you might check out http://harddrop.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6277 (made by Blitz)
however, it has a different method of making the DAS values, described in its topic
The link doesn't work.
open TOP launcher in the TOW folder
Click Settings and choose original presets.
http://i.gyazo.com/e611622d0c9d1614bd1975eb365db3ad.png
Press start.
Click shop.
Click Tuning settings
http://i.gyazo.com/0bf19b760ea3458ead2043d995df4b72.png
Choose any level from 1 to 5.
http://i.gyazo.com/cdf473a1b32db11d130f2e36bdb61d4a.png
Go to Time attack and try it out.
If the setting doesn't work, go back to shop and change the DAS/Sensitivity. If the whole preset doesn't feel right. Try again from TOP presets.
http://i.gyazo.com/e0eb934ab04dc4996cfa8f98df5492d2.png
The patch saves so you don't have to keep patching it once you find the right preset and das/sensitivity. If your settings restart each time you start your TOW, run TOPLauncher as adminstrator by right clicking it.
Posted by: djackallstar Sep 29 2014, 01:50 AM
A quick question: Theoretically speaking, does 5-4 stacking require less tricky finesse than 6-3 stakcing? Not considering other factors such as how hard it will be to stack without skimming.
Posted by: FieryLight Sep 29 2014, 07:02 AM
A quick question: Theoretically speaking, does 5-4 stacking require less tricky finesse than 6-3 stakcing? Not considering other factors such as how hard it will be to stack without skimming.
Nope. 6-3 is less tricky. With 5-4 you'll find yourself needing to use the "DAS to right > rotate > tap left" pattern more often whereas you practically never use that for 6-3 unless you're skimming. 5-4 on eliminates the double tap right patterns and the tap right one + rotate patterns
Posted by: djackallstar Sep 29 2014, 08:10 AM
Thanks for the reply =]
A quick question: Theoretically speaking, does 5-4 stacking require less tricky finesse than 6-3 stakcing? Not considering other factors such as how hard it will be to stack without skimming.
Nope. 6-3 is less tricky. With 5-4 you'll find yourself needing to use the "DAS to right > tap left > rotate"
FTFY
Posted by: caffeine Sep 29 2014, 06:24 PM
Shouldn't the order not matter as long as the rotation comes after the dar? For example, you can press rotate and move left simultaneously.
Posted by: djackallstar Sep 29 2014, 11:49 PM
Shouldn't the order not matter as long as the rotation comes after the dar? For example, you can press rotate and move left simultaneously.
My bad
Posted by: FieryLight Sep 30 2014, 06:35 AM
Shouldn't the order not matter as long as the rotation comes after the dar? For example, you can press rotate and move left simultaneously.
Lol, does anyone actually do that though? I've actually never done that, I always separate my left/right and rotates. I wonder if it'd help my speed.... Speaking of which, does anyone use both CW rotates? (e.g. they're mapped to x and up by default so does anyone press up and x simultaneously to do double rotates faster on guideline games?)
Posted by: nostalgianinja Oct 15 2014, 11:41 AM
So how's the best way to practice all the different types of spins? and do spins break any finesse rules?
Posted by: djackallstar Oct 15 2014, 11:54 AM
So how's the best way to practice all the different types of spins?
http://harddrop.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5803
and do spins break any finesse rules?
http://www38.atwiki.jp/pecatet/pages/71.html
See the TSD、TSSの最適化 section.
Posted by: caffeine Oct 15 2014, 01:27 PM
That's interesting that they would recommend saving a keypress over saving a row descend. I guess it depends on the soft drop speed. For example, in Tetris DS, it's always preferable to do this:
Posted by: djackallstar Oct 15 2014, 03:24 PM
That's interesting that they would recommend saving a keypress over saving a row descend. I guess it depends on the soft drop speed. For example, in Tetris DS, it's always preferable to do this:
This. The soft drop speed in TDS is insanely slow, and everytime I see a wallkicked T-spin in TDS I always feel the T piece is teleporting.
Posted by: Sisu Oct 15 2014, 06:20 PM
so let's say i don't have a 3DS, but i would be willing to get one for Tetris Ultimate next month
2. what would I need to connect to online multiplayer?
3. how do i can has e-shop?
Turns out I'm already pretty well able to handle it, but I'm definitely MDing at least 1 in 15-20 pieces.