IRS/IHS in nullpo

XaeL · June 25, 2011, 07:26:30 AM

If i hold down [rotate left] and spam [harddrop] how come all the pieces dont spawn rotated? how do i /fix this?

Magnanimous · June 25, 2011, 07:57:57 AM

What rule are you using? You can try using the rule editor to add IRS/IHS. StandardZero doesn't have them, iirc.

Zircean · June 25, 2011, 09:59:59 AM

IRS doesn't work when there are no delays for it to work in (i.e. no ARE/line clear).

Caithness · June 25, 2011, 11:28:22 AM

I feel like IRS fails on me about 20% of the time when I'm using a Classic rule.

It's the primary reason I don't think of Nullpo as the ideal TGM clone.

XaeL · June 25, 2011, 05:13:52 PM

Quote from: Zircean
IRS doesn't work when there are no delays for it to work in (i.e. no ARE/line clear).

Don't you think this is a bug...

I remember kitaru saying the "correct" implementation of irs involves pieces being rotated on spawn as long as the rotate key is held down (regardeless of ARE/Line clear). Unless of course it is correct and i'm a noob and misquoted.

Edit: i changed are/lineclear to 1 frame as well as turning IHS/IRS on in rule editor.. I can't just hold it down once for multiple pieces i have to press on each piece...

Magnanimous · June 25, 2011, 05:35:06 PM

All of the games with IRS have ARE anyway(?), so it's just not part of the definition. I don't see why they can't change it though, we make up enough as it is.

myndzi · June 25, 2011, 05:48:13 PM

Be sure you don't have "Can't use initial rotate again until release button" checked in your rule. I just tested what you said you did on a new installation of nullpo with Classic3 and every piece IRS'ed in practice mode with 5 are.

This actually makes me think - what happens if NP skips the IRS frame? (isn't running at 60fps) Maybe that's what's happening too all our TGM pros in HDTL?

XaeL · June 25, 2011, 07:45:05 PM

Quote from: myndzi
Be sure you don't have "Can't use initial rotate again until release button" checked in your rule. I just tested what you said you did on a new installation of nullpo with Classic3 and every piece IRS'ed in practice mode with 5 are.

This actually makes me think - what happens if NP skips the IRS frame? (isn't running at 60fps) Maybe that's what's happening too all our TGM pros in HDTL?

ok thanks for confirming it works for *someone* i shall try mucking around with my settings

did you hold down rotate once and mash harddrop, or did you have to press rotate between each piece? (i want to be able to just hold rotate once and mash harddrop and everypiece should spawn rotated)

EDIT: ok it works.. i think i had to set spawn to 1 frame instead of -1...