TDS Garbage Help

[Magnanimous]

I've really been getting into wi-fi battles lately, but I'm a little confused about the placement of holes in garbage... Sometimes all of the spaces line up, but other times it's as scrambled as BlockBox. Does anyone know if there's a special algorithm in the garbage process, or if it's just random?

[jujube]

some players have done testing and they found that the hole changes columns about 30% of the time in TDS.

[Magnanimous]

Okay, thanks.

[zaphod77]

Okay, thanks.

The garbage is rumored to be kinder to the lower ranked player, and meaner to the higher ranked one, but I have seen no evidence at all of this.

I believe the hole change rate is fixed at 30%, and what people are seeing is just the random number generator at work.  Without combos, it's a lot harder to counterattack messed up garbage than it is to counterattack strait garbage.

This seems to suggest that TOJ is the wave of the future for decent Guideline multiplayer.

[WhiteTigerShiro]

The garbage is rumored to be kinder to the lower ranked player, and meaner to the higher ranked one, but I have seen no evidence at all of this.

I believe the hole change rate is fixed at 30%, and what people are seeing is just the random number generator at work.

Most likely.  In WoW there's a boss that uses an attack called "Deep Breath" on a random timer.  Before it was known that she would use the attack on a give or take timer, and every time there was a patch, people would insist that the timer on the attack was changed.  In reality the randomizer would just give them either a lot of high timers or a lot of low timers that coincidentally coincided with the patch.

[!--quoteo--][div class=\\\'quotetop\\\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\\\'quotemain\\\'][!--quotec--]Without combos, it's a lot harder to counterattack messed up garbage than it is to counterattack strait garbage.

This seems to suggest that TOJ is the wave of the future for decent Guideline multiplayer.
[/quote]I have to agree.  Seems that in TDS trash tends to decide more matches than actual skill.  Either you get good trash that sets you up for a lot of mutli-line clears (possibly involving T-spins), or you get a lot of alternating trash that gives you nothing for clearing it.  I always feel a little defeated inside when I JUST got done sending a bunch of trash over to him, then glance up at his screen seconds later and there's nothing there and a bunch of jagged trash on my screen.  It makes me feel like I just gave myself trash.  :/

I definitely love the combo system because it helps get rid of some of that by letting you Ren the alternating Trash.

[hurtchow]

What is TOJ's garbage system like?

I'd play TOJ more if I knew how to do 1 on 1 matches.

[WhiteTigerShiro]

ToJ seems to randomize it more often, but makes-up for it by allowing you to combo.  I once improved-out a 9 Ren combo working into some trash I was sent.  You could see my grin from miles away; it's one thing to get big combos in single-player when you're setting-up ideal fields for it, but another entirely when you get 'em on the fly against another player.

[hurtchow]

Sometimes I think the Tetris Party garbage is geared up like that, too. It's cool do go through ~10 lines in a combo. I don't think the RNG is set up to do that, though. It seems to be just another statistical probability to get the right pieces at the right time.

[jujube]

from the main screen in TOJ, go to multiplayer, then to the green area (the bottommost option) for 1v1. you can create or join rooms, and you can create a locked room and invite just one person if you want to play a true 1v1 match. otherwise up to 6 people can be in a room, where the winner keeps playing.