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> Does this person's run not count as legitimate? 19.65 seconds
daskrip
post May 16 2012, 07:54 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGW4j7LRBJk

This guy is playing Tetris with unusual controls. A single key makes the piece drop automatically. The world record is considered to be 20.55, right? Why does this person's run not count?
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post May 16 2012, 08:01 PM
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That's pretty sweet, didn't know anybody'd broken 20s with keyblox (keytris in this case I guess)

To answer your question, it is generally understood that players are competing for the fastest time on the same basic game. Since keytris as demonstrated is not directly comparable, it's hard to say that a keytris record "counts" as the "world record sprint time." When we're talking world records, we generally allow for minimum delays and instant das, sonic drop, etc., but the basic game is the same: SRS rotation system, left/right rotate left/rotate right, soft/firm/hard drop, hold for inputs. This is the baseline by which speed records are comparable.

Having a more restrictive setup counts, but having a more lenient setup doesn't. For example, Hangame has some weird settings but they don't offer an advantage over our "ideal tetris", so they are applicable for the title "world record".

Records will often be qualified by the game/engine they were made on, but when not specified it is generally considered to be within certain boundaries.
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post May 16 2012, 08:17 PM
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Very helpful! Thank you!
Now I'm just curious as to how you can map 40 keys onto a keyboard. That's how that game is played, according to the description in the YouTube video.
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post May 16 2012, 08:27 PM
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IIRC the game in the video isn't publicly available, but Keyblox is.
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post May 16 2012, 09:45 PM
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isnt that run also a TAS run or something


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Lol no, that's ludacris. I have a sentence generator, Blink....
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post May 16 2012, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(MarioThePhenom @ May 16 2012, 04:45 PM) *

isnt that run also a TAS run or something


"This video is realtime, but demonstration only - several techniques were used to make the playtime possible." Maybe that means he's practiced that particular piece sequence.
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post May 16 2012, 10:30 PM
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i think if he practiced that particular piece sequence i think he could've done faster esp with the 1 key finesse lol
but the time doesn't necessarily 'count' because of the 1 key finesse


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post May 16 2012, 11:08 PM
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It's xael, you can't trust him. I highly doubt he has the brainspeed for sub 20 in keyblox 1st time of meeting a sequence if he can't sub 25 normal speed (and can't get close)


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post May 16 2012, 11:08 PM
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this is not a legitimate keyblox 40L, but if it was I'd consider it a 40L record but im biased

I'm the current and legitimate keyblox record holder at 20.72


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post May 17 2012, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE(caffeine @ May 16 2012, 09:53 PM) *

Maybe that means he's practiced that particular piece sequence.

pretty much.

I got like 16 or so but I didnt record it.
Then i lost my input sequence (i had some really good one where half of it is just words)

And the video does say demonstration only in like huge flashy letters and everywhere in the description.
It's not like i tried to pass it off as legitimate.


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QUOTE(Paradox @ Dec 16 2010 @ 05:52 PM)
Like many setups here, it is useful if your opponent doesn't move and you get 4 Ts in a row.
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