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> 5.5pps in 10 seconds (12w matrix), in Chinese fan made FBT(火拼俄罗斯) clone
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post Sep 2 2012, 06:25 AM
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http://www.mediafire.com/?m1ua1gtch98mfv5
above is the replay file and the fan-made singleplayer clone.
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this is a replay of some pro.. in "non-countering auto-attack practice mode".

start the program, "open...", choose the ".trx" file, and "ok" to replay.
if you want to play this game.... well just after reading things below...

also everything will be messy because of encoding problem...
i'll add translations here..

things on the left of the game field:

技术统计(technical statistics)
时间(time) 秒(seconds)
块数(# pieces) 块(pieces)

攻击(attack) 行(lines)
攻击速度(attack speed) 行/5秒 (lines per 5 seconds)

速度(speed) 块/秒(pieces/second)
点击速度(key-press speed) 次/秒(key-presses/second)

消行(lines cleared) 行(lines)
无攻击消行(non-attacking line clears (single and double)) 行(lines)

brief introduction to the game engine:

basic and movements:
12*21 matrix.
no das (neither horizontal nor vertical), no wallkick, no lock delay.
non-locking soft drop (doesn't lock until falling by gravity), locking hard drop.
async game engine, all run by windows message and timer event.
solid ceiling. both top out death and fail-to-spawn death.
not sure about the type of randomizer. sequence are recieved form the server. i think it's "more complicated" than just memoryless lol. the randomizer of the clone may be (or i think it obviously is) inaccurate.
rotation system:
spawn in visible field.
I, O: same as ARS. spawns 1 cell lower for rotating.
T: same as SRS, but "facing down" initially. spawns 1 cell lower for rotating.
L, J: same as SRS, but "pointing down with the longer edge" initially. the longer edge is on the middle-left (6th in 12) column.
S, Z: 2-orientation, top-right alignment, spawns horizontally.
multiplayer game rule:
attack by triple(+2) and quadruple(+3), checkerboard garbage.
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TRIPLE IS VERY IMPORTANT

no garbage buffer (instant rising). attacks everyone in the room (only players in different team if team-play selected) with full attack power (like current hangame does).

about this game...
俄罗斯方块(e luo si fang kuai)=tetris="Russian blocks" literally, shortened to "俄罗斯" (Russia)
this fan clone is named "coolkuai单机" (coolkuai single-player), supporting replay files, das (details below), and some special modes for practicing.

火拼俄罗斯(HuoPin tetris, "Fire Battle Tetris" literally),
a tetris game (not official) run in China since 2002(04?) (old netmarble tetris, just translated into Chinese)..
hold by Tencent (this company does (or say "copies") everything.... starting from IM software called "QQ" ) as a part of "QQgame"...

since QQ gets popular, many things under it gets popular, including QQgame and its FBT. it had been very popular for 4 years (how popular? it's said that more than half of people in internet cafe are playing it.....), and now it still has thousands of players online at every time.

as it has no das, players developed "加速器"("speed booster" lierally). seems it changes something in windows to set delay time shorter, but not emulating das itself, resulting das system with "key interruption".
eg. if you push down left key, during first delay, you pressed a rotation key, the das will never be kicked in. if you press rotation kay after das-ing to wall, the das is not going on, and often makes misdrop (also one at last in the replay).

so, people have to separate moving and rotating movements...
also with 12w matrix..
so the key pressing speed comes very high, and the das delay for pros may be just 40-60ms (also i tried to introduce them to Nullpomino, and they found 60fps makes das delay too inaccurate for them)

but speed monsters still exists and they're also approaching 5pps...

if you want to try this game......

register a QQ ID(QQ number).
--get one here: http://reg.imqq.com/
--in China, "QQ number" is somehow just like "mobile phone number", remember it. lol
install QQgame platform.
--website: http://qqgame.qq.com/
--立即下载=download now. the green button.
--and install...
--best to replace Chinese characters if there are (may display messy ascii code) in the paths...
--be careful of the craps in the installer.... check none of those checkboxes at last.
start it...
--input QQ number, password.
--3 checkboxes, "remember password", "login invisible", "agree TOS".
--2 buttons, "settings"(proxy), "login"
--login~
--on the first run it'll pop up a new player guide.... just close it.
add the game...
--enter the second tab "游戏库"(game library), the second "全部游戏/所有游戏"(all games), "休闲竞技"("casual competitive"), look for "火拼俄罗斯"
----and the icon for it is a T-spin with red T, though it doesn't reward anything except a misdrop. lol
click it, and click "开始游戏"(start game), a download window will pop up...
--when the installation finishes, it'll start automatically.
--you're automatically brought into a room and the game program starts...
--running the game for the first time, it'll pop up the settings window but not the game window..
----the second tab "游戏操作"(operations in the game)..
----123456 means "use item to player 1~6" (1 is always yourself), then rotate CW, rotate CCW, move left, move right, soft drop, hard drop, swap items. the first button on the bottom for "OK".
----it has "turbo" mode itself in the third tab, but can't be checked.... seems the developer just left it and went away from Tencent company...
--"开始" = start "离开"=exit "练习"=practice
next time you enter QQgame....
--a panel on the left containing the games you have played before. click it and enter "火拼俄罗斯" window, select a channel on the left, click on the the seats around the desk to sit, click a seat with player, you can spectate.
--you can't join a game when it's running.

whew... that's (almost) all....

and das....
http://www.mediafire.com/?j124hlzj8lsgjej
there are 2 "major" version, often called "3.4c" and "zx加速". the first one is simpler, the second one is a bit better (this one is doing real simulation).
new version uploaded, use FTB_das_new.
both does "injection(?)" for sending key messages, so antivirus software may drive something wrong. if they don't work, you might need to close antivirus for a while.. and run as administrator..

i just introduce the second one here...
(sometimes (seems always)) shows "网络错误,请稍后再试" on startup and then closes. try again and again.
sometimes it displays ads... the interface is a web page.. idk wuts happening either, close it and try again.

the 4 tabs are "main", "about", "guestbook", "rankings". most things are in the main tab.
"键盘加速" keyboard speed boosting
"设置" settings "开启/关闭" turn on/off (it's NOT turned on after starting up)
in the "settings", first 6 boxes are your keys (in vertical orderstarting from the left: L,R,SD,HD,CW,CCW),
then repeat rate (per minute, and supports instant, which has something special), first delay (in microsecond),
then soft drop type (with first delay, without first delay, special type (best for slide but doesn't work for spins).
"统计" statistics
"查看" view(if enabled, it records everyone you played with) "开启/关闭" on/off
once statistics is turned on, a button will appear in the game window, click to expand/hide the statistic window. there are numbers of your speed, other's speed, attack ratio, average # of pieces of first attack, etc.)

more videos?
--new--
youtube (he's the guy behind this replay!)

3v3 battle between big communities: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTYxMzUxMzQ4.html
4pps player: http://www.56.com/u11/v_NDkxODc0NTg.html
with keyboard: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzIxMjI0NTI=.html
fairly good player with das tool interface (he says it gets laggy when recording the games)
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDQ4NjEwMjA0.html


sorry for Chinglish orz

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post Sep 2 2012, 08:10 AM
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Can you also play the Multiplayer variant with this download? If it wasn't Chinease, I would consider playing it. This game cries for AutoHotKey.

I always wondered, which games would be popular in the Asian region. At least, now I know the answer for China. Anyway, I have never seen so mean garbage. I fear, people just stack for Tetrises and don't even try to dig through it in a 2 or 3 player room.
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post Sep 2 2012, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(Integration @ Sep 2 2012, 04:10 PM) *

Can you also play the Multiplayer variant with this download? If it wasn't Chinease, I would consider playing it. This game cries for AutoHotKey.

it's completely in Chinese and no unicode support...
well if you still want to try.... er.. needs a bit more work to do..
in a word, you need to register a QQ ID (QQ number) (log on QQ (maybe webqq) with this, then you can talk with Chinese tetris group Wink.png ),
download and install QQgame platform, login to QQgame, install FBT in QQgame, choose a channel, room, sit down and play.
and the das simulator it you want to play a BIT faster. i'll upload it.

i'll edit the post for full guide.. if you can't wait you may ask wojtek~

and.. "official" multiplayer game has more sh*tty engine than this clone..

btw you're trying autohotkey for das? this clone has an internal one. settings are in the keyboard icon on the toolbar.

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I always wondered, which games would be popular in the Asian region. At least, now I know the answer for China.

asia..
for Japan that'll be TOJ before, and now most TOP players are also from Japan.
Korea, sure that's hangame tetris..
idk more...
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Anyway, I have never seen so mean garbage. I fear, people just stack for Tetrises and don't even try to dig through it in a 2 or 3 player room.

yes pros never dig that, though i sometimes do for just fun. lol


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post Sep 2 2012, 09:03 AM
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How do you view the video that is in .trx file extension ? on google its says the file is a Visual Studio Test Results file.

Does the game run with the english version of QQ ? there is no game support on this messenger i believe.


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QUOTE(vipjun @ Sep 2 2012, 11:03 AM) *

How do you view the video that is in .trx file extension ? on google its says the file is a Visual Studio Test Results file.

Did you try this: start the program, "open...", choose the ".trx" file, and "ok" to replay? Worked for me.

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well if you still want to try.... er.. needs a bit more work to do..

Nah, I didn't want to cause you any problems. I don't think, you'll have much fun, when you can't speak Chinease. And I am more a patient player. I don't like Tetris games, where rounds end very fast. But what you could do is linking a gameplay video from a Chinease video platform. I entered the chinese word in Youtube and only got one result (which was about 5 seconds long).

QUOTE(farter @ Sep 2 2012, 10:38 AM) *

btw you're trying autohotkey for das? this clone has an internal one. settings are in the keyboard icon on the toolbar.

AutoHotKey > speed booster (if you know how to use AHK properly)

Things, you could do:
keys for triple-tap (or double-tap)
key for 180° rotation
instant-das (this way rotating doesn't break DAS)
simulated kicks on left and right wall (move away from wall, rotate, move back)

I tried the last 3 points in Multris, see the video below. I can post the script code, if you want.





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post Sep 2 2012, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(vipjun @ Sep 2 2012, 05:03 PM) *

How do you view the video that is in .trx file extension ? on google its says the file is a Visual Studio Test Results file.

Does the game run with the english version of QQ ? there is no game support on this messenger i believe.

QQ game is another product of Tencent, needs extra download. they're connected just with QQ account..
the introduction was added in the main post.

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Did you try this: start the program, "open...", choose the ".trx" file, and "ok" to replay? Worked for me.
Nah, I didn't want to cause you any problems. I don't think, you'll have much fun, when you can't speak Chinease. And I am more a patient player. I don't like Tetris games, where rounds end very fast. But what you could do is linking a gameplay video from a Chinease video platform. I entered the chinese word in Youtube and only got one result (which was about 5 seconds long).
AutoHotKey > speed booster (if you know how to use AHK properly)

Things, you could do:
keys for triple-tap (or double-tap)
key for 180° rotation
instant-das (this way rotating doesn't break DAS)
simulated kicks on left and right wall (move away from wall, rotate, move back)

I tried the last 3 points in Multris, see the video below. I can post the script code, if you want.


lol there's already lots of tool for that, also with some more functions added.
eg. "stable soft drop" (press "down" nothing will happen, until you press L/R, it processes "down*20, L/R*12, hard drop")
because it locks by gravity(which is not stable and sometimes fast sometimes slow lol) and harddrop, if you softdrop, it may lock at any time unpredictable...

also players have tried to add double rotation key, "das-to-wall-and-return-1" key, even 12+4 keyblox, 12*4 keyblox style...


videos.. well you need to search in Chinese website lol because youtube is blocked in China.
youku.com tudou.com that's two major website.
or video.baidu.com to search =w=


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Oh, so much evil cheating energy? Laugh.png

Yeah, I watched some videos, but none was worth linking (I saw you linked some already). There's also a mode, where items are added randomly to your matrix, when you clear lines (Singles or Doubles only?). You can collect those items by clearing the lines, they are inside, and then send them to your opponents. Can you tell me, what those items do? IIRC I saw +1,+2,+3,up arrow, down arrow.
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QUOTE(Integration @ Sep 2 2012, 07:34 PM) *

Oh, so much evil cheating energy? Laugh.png

Yeah, I watched some videos, but none was worth linking (I saw you linked some already). There's also a mode, where items are added randomly to your matrix, when you clear lines (Singles or Doubles only?). You can collect those items by clearing the lines, they are inside, and then send them to your opponents. Can you tell me, what those items do? IIRC I saw +1,+2,+3,up arrow, down arrow.

yeah there're those items:
+1 +2 +3 -1 -2 -3 speed up slow down
use 123456 key to send them to specified player (you may send good/bad items to anyone)

+ and - just means add or clear garbage lines from the bottom of the target player's field..
up arrow lets falling slower, down arrow makes faster (but actually nothing bad for one with more than 1.5pps speed)
yes those items are a bit boring..
so pros don't often care about items, they likes speed and pure line clear attack.

how items appear is quite fun though, in the game there's a table, specifying which item will appear if you use which piece to make line clear. in a word it's not random.

the videos are just demonstrating gameplay, and seem not using items much..

QUOTE(Integration @ Sep 2 2012, 04:10 PM) *

I fear, people just stack for Tetrises and don't even try to dig through it in a 2 or 3 player room.

notice that it's memoryless randomizer (or we sometimes think it's even worse generator.....), and triple counts for 2 lines' attack, so it turns a bit more interesting. with no hold, players needs to prepare for JLI to make triple and quadruple.


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