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Sumez
post Mar 16 2015, 08:08 PM
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Thanks a lot to everyone who participated this weekend! And also thanks to those who were hanging out in the Twitch chat. :)

I created some highlights here:
http://www.twitch.tv/tetriseurope/profile

They will be on YouTube in a better quality later on

Apologies for the sound issues. There was a weird grounding issues that kept creating a very annoying noise, no matter what we did to improve it. Big props to the venue's sound techs who'd run out to get a new sound card for the streaming computer and set up a secondary mixer on stage for us, but unfortunately none of it helped. Next year I'll be sure to bring a bad ass sound setup that should be able to handle all of it, and also capture some ambient sound, and play some public license music between events. :)

PS: Signing up for this forum is extremely complicated, I hope someone is working on that. :P
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post Mar 17 2015, 06:25 PM
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Thanks everyone for a superweekend!

And thank you Sisu for bugging me for a year that I should go. I would not have noticed this tournament otherwise since I am not so active on forums. If it was not for you I would not have met all you lovely tetrisfriends!

Next year I hope more people will show up from Cultris and harddrop. The tournamentarea was super. Next year I think stream will be even better and maybe more fun tournaments!

I am looking forward to next years tournaments!
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post Apr 22 2015, 06:41 PM
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This looks great and I might be in Holland next year, so I might be able to come! You guys should definitely do a multiplayer event (e.g. Tetris Friends)! smile.gif


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post Apr 23 2015, 09:02 AM
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3 of the 4 events were multiplayer competitions. smile.gif Only the NES competition was 1-player head to head matches.
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post Apr 23 2015, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(Paul676 @ Apr 22 2015, 06:41 PM) *

This looks great and I might be in Holland next year, so I might be able to come! You guys should definitely do a multiplayer event (e.g. Tetris Friends)! smile.gif

Considering most of the Netherlands is a 8+ hour drive/train ride from Copenhagen and it'd probably make most sense to just fly, it shouldn't really matter whether you're in the Netherlands or still in the UK Sticking Out Tongue.png
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post Apr 23 2015, 11:03 PM
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heh I mean modern SRS multiplayer, the sort most people here play smile.gif


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post Apr 24 2015, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(Paul676 @ Apr 23 2015, 11:03 PM) *

heh I mean modern SRS multiplayer, the sort most people here play smile.gif


what paul said.

maybe we can arrange some collaboration this time, if we manage to to plan earlier, and bring the TetrisCharity Tournament with Tetris Party Deluxe to the event, would love this.
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post Apr 28 2016, 12:07 PM
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Haven't seen a lot of promotion for this event around here, and I'm not the one responsible for it, so I'm not gonna start a new thread.

But I'm gonna set up a stream again this year (we won't have the same kickass hardware setup, but hopefully we'll be able to avoid sound issues this time, I'll make sure it's enjoyable), so if anyone of you can't make it there, make sure to tune in on Twitch again, on the 20th and 21st of May!

Here's the Facebook event for 2016:
https://www.facebook.com/events/1575384072772295/
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post May 20 2016, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(Sisu @ Mar 7 2015, 11:25 AM) *

there WILL BE at least 10-20 people from HD in attendance. i cannot name names cuz some of them are surprises Lips are Sealed.png

^ This mark was hit with THC janutzska acidboy Burbruee Meroigo Alexsweden wasmachstdugern UncleTusk acorneli muf Sumez Svavar... smile.gif

but this year looks to be fewer Undecided.png

see 2016 Day 1 video @ https://www.twitch.tv/tetriseurope/profile

Some past coverage links:

2014
DM i TETRIS 5. april 2014
Classic Tetris Goes Global

2015
TEC - Tetris the movie - long teaser
EM i Tetris: Nu falder brikkerne på plads
Bobby til EM Tetris
Tag med i spilnørdernes paradis - EM i Tetris
EM i Tetris - TV 2 Lorry
Will Copenhagen become the Tetris capital of Europe?

2016
EM i Tetris 2016 - Go Morgen Danmark
EM i Tetris 2016 - Aftenshowet


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post May 21 2016, 06:10 AM
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QUOTE(Sisu @ May 20 2016, 11:58 PM) *

THC janutzska acidboy Burbruee Meroigo Alexsweden wasmachstdugern UncleTusk acorneli muf Sumez Svavar

That's 0 active members. Copenhagen is as suitable for European Championships as Portland for World Championships. If you are not from Denmark or Sweden, you can get there pretty much only by plane. That's why 90 % of the participants come either from Denmark or Sweden. Also there's no sense in holding a TGM2 tournament when only 3 participants have played that before. A Gameboy tournament where nobody sees anything doesn't make much sense either and PAL NES isn't as good as NTSC NES from a viewer's standpoint. So it's all about SNES.

SNES from last year:

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post May 22 2016, 10:45 AM
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You are making some very good points, so I would love to address them.
Of course, I would like to stress, that this is all my personal perspective, I don't necessarily share the views of the organizers, and my approach is probably very different when it comes down to it, but we have the same end goal.

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Copenhagen is as suitable for European Championships as Portland for World Championships. If you are not from Denmark or Sweden, you can get there pretty much only by plane. That's why 90 % of the participants come either from Denmark or Sweden.

I get what you're coming from, but honestly this would be true no matter where in Europe you chose to have this. The thing is, though, and that's really all that matters, is that Europe didn't choose Denmark, people from Denmark decided to do this, because no one else is doing it. Off the top of my head, we did have participants from both Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, England, Holland, France, and Serbia, and of the Danish contestants, Christian is really the only one who is able to put up a fight in the NES playoffs, so the top tier is really quite international. The fact still remains that with people like Linus, Svavar and Jani in the competition, we still have a field of some of the strongest PAL Tetris players.
But in the end, what really matters is that no one else is doing this. Instead of being critical of the location, we should just be happy that it exists. Tetris is such a competitive sport, and more needs to be done about it. I don't personally care where in the world that is.

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Also there's no sense in holding a TGM2 tournament when only 3 participants have played that before. A Gameboy tournament where nobody sees anything doesn't make much sense either and PAL NES isn't as good as NTSC NES from a viewer's standpoint. So it's all about SNES.


This is, again, not as simple as you put it. The decision of including GB and SNES I think was just tying to put more content into the schedule, so there would be more for people to see or do? I'm not really defending it or being against it, it's really just a novel part of the event that makes it a bit bigger. You could easily argue that those two could easily be replaced with a more competitive platform, and/or some guideline VS matches for the sake of variation. At the moment there is no game with a hold button, or T-spin rewards. The thing is here, though, that similarly to the location, this would require someone with an interest in this platform to take action and push it through. But this is a small event at present, so hopefully stuff like that will come in time if we grow bigger.

As for TGM, I have to admit I was the one pushing for that. I'm a big fan of this version, and I think it's really one of the most impressive versions of Tetris, when it comes down to what the audience sees. I was hoping that by including this, it would make more people aware of it and get more people into playing it, but also helping attract more people to the event than just NES players, which I think it actually did. Of course, with Qlex being the only truly capable player present, the competition was a novelty at best, but a lot of people loved seeing it, especially his M ranking during the qualifications was met with a lot of cheering.

Right now, CTEC is in all honesty all about the NES competition. All the best players present are digging this version, and the contest is much tougher, making the matches much more exciting to watch. But I would love in the future to see a bigger event with more platforms that really mattered. And personally I wouldn't mind seeing it hosted by a different country each year, even if that sounds like a logistical nightmare.
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post May 22 2016, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(Sumez @ May 22 2016, 10:45 AM) *
participants from both Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, England, Holland, France, and Serbia

Sounds like most people from last year returned (except for the US Americans; iirc there was also someone from Poland).

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This is, again, not as simple as you put it. The decision of including GB and SNES I think was just tying to put more content into the schedule, so there would be more for people to see or do? I'm not really defending it or being against it, it's really just a novel part of the event that makes it a bit bigger. You could easily argue that those two could easily be replaced with a more competitive platform, and/or some guideline VS matches for the sake of variation.

Having an SNES multiplayer competition makes completely sense. It's the same rotation system as NES and also pretty similar randomizer, so NES participants haven't that much trouble adjusting.

QUOTE(Sumez @ May 22 2016, 10:45 AM) *
Right now, CTEC is in all honesty all about the NES competition. All the best players present are digging this version, and the contest is much tougher, making the matches much more exciting to watch.

The NES competition was strong this year. Honestly, I was really disappointed how the SNES competition turned out. There were games in the semi and quarter finals that I would have expected to see only in the first round. Last year was much better with the 3 American participants. It seems multiplayer requires a different skill set.

A reason why there's a stronger focus on NES could be that the NES competition takes much longer to complete. Way too long if you ask me. I would forbid to start in level 9 - too much stalling games (maybe also forbid to start in level 16+ in the earlier rounds). Level 12 and 15 should be the canonical choices.

QUOTE(Sumez @ May 22 2016, 10:45 AM) *
And personally I wouldn't mind seeing it hosted by a different country each year, even if that sounds like a logistical nightmare.

I don't think switching locations year for year would work that well. If you stay on one place, most people from last year will return and may have improved in meantime. That doesn't change the fact that there are areas in Europe (like Ruhr area or Paris) where 5 times as many people could attend.


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post May 22 2016, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(Okey_Dokey @ May 22 2016, 04:57 PM) *

Having an SNES multiplayer competition makes completely sense. It's the same rotation system as NES and also pretty similar randomizer, so NES participants haven't that much trouble adjusting.

I'm sure that's a good argument for why it was included. To be honest though, I don't think much thought was put into it. However, personally I think it would make more sense to include Tetris versions that vary more, rather than several that are so similar. I guess both arguments work though. A lot of NES players didn't even want to try for the TGM competition, but did GB and SNES just because it was there.

Unimportant side note, but SNES is actually way more random than NES. It's really ridiculous.

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The NES competition was strong this year. Honestly, I was really disappointed how the SNES competition turned out. There were games in the semi and quarter finals that I would have expected to see only in the first round. Last year was much better with the 3 American participants. It seems multiplayer requires a different skill set.

Oh definitely! That's why I would love to see a bigger focus on a more competitive VS platform. I doubt anyone ever put any effort into training SNES VS specifically. The way garbage works in that version takes away a ton of potential for playing strategically. A hard drop is really sorely missed, too. But as you said, it's similar to NES, so it's more approachable to the existing audience of the event.

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A reason why there's a stronger focus on NES could be that the NES competition takes much longer to complete. Way too long if you ask me. I would forbid to start in level 9 - too much stalling games (maybe also forbid to start in level 16+ in the earlier rounds). Level 12 and 15 should be the canonical choices.

The reason there's a stronger focus on NES is entirely because that's how the event was conceived though. The organizers wanted a European counterpart to CTWC in USA, which is a NES focused competition. As such, the competitors at CTEC are also primarily NES players. It's designed to be the main event. If we didn't want it to take long we could have gone for a top 8 seeds brackets instead. It wouldn't have changed much as the top seed won all the first 8 matches anyway, and no one expected differently.

The level 9 thing though. It's a touchy subject. We discussed it a lot prior to the event, and the decision to make it the call of the top seed was a bit controversial, as a lot of people don't feel comfortable with the higher speeds on NES, especially in PAL. However, I really feel that the awkward DAS and being able to master it is such a big defining factor in the NES version of Tetris, that if you want to win a NES focused competition, you should be able to control it! Also, the top seed choice is how it is also done at CTWC, so I feel it's a bit of a no brainer. That, and of course you're far from the only person to complain about the slow level 9 matches. I was hoping that letting the top seed choose would result in several much faster matches, but in the end it was only Svavar's matches and the finals that ended up changing up anything, which I will admit had me a bit disappointed.

I would love to prevent all those level 9 matches next year, but it's really difficult to find a way to do anything about it without stepping on someone's toes.
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post Sep 17 2018, 10:59 PM
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Some videos and brackets from the 2018 event:

GameBoy Tetris (yay decent footage):
NES Tetris (good video, bad audio):
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post Sep 18 2018, 12:10 PM
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Hopefully next year we'll be able to set something up more than half an hour in advance, and maybe actually have decent sound.

We did have a dedicated mixer to get sound from the announcer mic into the stream, but since .... it was decided that the same mixer should be used for music at the venue.... we were unable to tap into it for the stream.
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