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myndzi
post Dec 27 2012, 07:28 PM
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Content sections are a lot like blogs; I can let anybody post, or grant specific permission, and promote things to the front page etc.. What I'm hoping is to find someone who, is, say, big into the videos section who wouldn't mind taking charge of it; someone who's on the shoutbox a lot who wouldn't mind modding it, etc.

For the forums, I'm not sure yet, but my thought is to put one person in charge of each forum. They'd be the primary mod for that forum; this means choosing regular mods if you like, enforcing rules, and working with me to decide policy stuff when appropriate. There are also forum specific things, for example:

* A person in charge of the Introductions forum would be tasked with welcoming new members and helping them get oriented/inviting them to participate/etc.

* A person in charge of the Tetris forum would be tasked with keeping discussions on topic and possibly curating / organizing useful threads in some way (TBD based on forum software capabilities)

* A person in charge of the Arena forum would be tasked with arranging and/or organizing and promoting competitive events

General and BWH probably don't need any more than someone who is actively "around" the forums to keep up with active threads, etc.


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post Dec 27 2012, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(myndzi @ Dec 27 2012, 07:28 PM) *

General and BWH probably don't need any more than someone who is actively "around" the forums to keep up with active threads, etc.

could i subsection manage BWH? Grin.png


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Lol no, that's ludacris. I have a sentence generator, Blink....
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post Dec 27 2012, 08:09 PM
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Depends on lots of things, primarily if anybody winds up volunteering for things that could actually use volunteers Wink.png


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post Dec 27 2012, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(MarioThePhenom @ Dec 27 2012, 08:01 PM) *

could i subsection manage BWH? Grin.png

I want to moderate block with hole please


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post Dec 28 2012, 03:25 AM
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1. less white?
2.nope, i come here for tetris:P
3.already am so yeah
4. ill donate eventually so no
5.dont know
6.a decent amount of time. and id be very sad if it was removed, i read the wiki when im bored Frown.png
7.dont use the record page too often, way too long and filled with randomness
8.can we add aharddrop tetris game?
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I want to moderate block with hole please

its subsection management, GAWD


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Lol no, that's ludacris. I have a sentence generator, Blink....
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post Jan 29 2013, 09:47 AM
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This is far too many questions, but I would like to help.

What are your opinions about the home page? Does anything need to be added or removed? Does anything need more or less emphasis in terms of size or placement?
It looks nice, but it does not remind me that I should return the next day. I prefer a simpler homepage. Of all the links at the top, I only click "Forums", "Records", "My Page", and "Inbox". Most of the time I'll find a wiki article through Google search, so perhaps you could implement a Wiki search function. If the HDWiki results could be embedded on the HD page without leaving the home page, I'd be more inclined to stay on it.

If off-topic boards (such as ‚€œLeague of Legends,‚€Ě ‚€œStarcraft II,‚€Ě ‚€œGuild Wars,‚€Ě etc.) were created, would you be interested and/or willing to participate?
Certainly. That's how most communities get to know each other. It's one thing to understand we're here about Tetris, but we can only get so close to other people who we don't know much about.

Would you be more motivated to participate in tournaments and events hosted by Hard Drop if participants received special forum badges under their avatar to appear in all their posts (i.e. ‚€œTetris Tournament Online II: Participant,‚€Ě ‚€œTetris Tournament Online II: Quarterfinalist,‚€Ě ‚€œTetris Tournament Online II: World Champion,‚€Ě etc.)?
Badges, post counts, anything quantifiable will encourage people to be more active. Any popular community will have some sort of accurate achievement system.

Would you be more motivated to donate to Hard Drop if donators received special forum badges under their avatar (i.e. ‚€œSupporter‚€Ě)?
No.

What are some features that you would like Hard Drop to implement?
There is nothing I want more from HD. I probably want less. You could have all the members in the world, but only 1 post a day or 1 post per new member. To get the site running healthy and fun again, you'll need to touch the core audience. It's hard to reassemble a core audience for a vintage game.

How often do you use the wiki? Do you have any motivation to contribute to the wiki? How would you feel if the wiki was removed?
The Wiki link has never helped me, because it's not apparent to me. I can Google it faster. But I can honestly say I've used the Wiki more than anything else on this site, so perhaps it should stand out more.

How often do you use the ‚€œRecords‚€Ě feature? How would you feel if the feature was removed, and was replaced by profile fields where you could fill in your stats (for 40 lines sprint, 40 lines dig race, etc.)?
I doubt the legitimacy of the records feature, but it was one of the draws that pulled me into this site. The only time I check it is when I update it with my own. I would be fine if it was changed to a profile exclusive feature.

Do you have any opinions about anything related to Hard Drop not covered by the previous questions?Edit: If you have any opinions regarding moderation or the administration, feel free to post them here under this question, because it is very relevant to the changes on which we're working. I understand that people have historically gotten some sort of suspension or ban if they talk about moderation in general discussion. However, as long as your response is honest, reasonable, and justified, and does not include any personal attacks, I will ensure you receive no punishment for sharing your opinions (this applies to responses in this thread only).
I rarely think about Hard Drop when I want to play Tetris. I do, however, think about some of the great content I've seen in the forums. Without the people on this website, I'd have never been at the skill level I'm at, and I'd have never conversed with as many Tetris players. I often forget the moderation exists, but moderators should not converse about moderation. The only burden to members of Hard Drop is the exposure of the lack of professional conduct, but I think this is a mere phase and will happen within any community going through transitions. The stream commentators are exceptional, the Wiki is exceptional, the hardcore players provide exceptional conjecture, but the game itself is dying. Unfortunately, without a large scale business campaign for Tetris, the community can only grow but so fast.

According to Google Trends, Hard Drop is growing
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=har...C%20&cmpt=q

But Tetris is dying
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=tet...C%20&cmpt=q

It seems to me that Tetris cannot evolve further when the experts leave the mid-range players in the dust. If there was a friendly and accurate way to match people up with similar skill levels, the game would be more playable, and we would interact with each other more. Forums are becoming archaic, and the prime mode of digital communication is through mobile devices. An app could be developed for Hard Drop, or popular Tetris games and guides could be linked on the website.

However, I believe strongest inhibition keeping players from continuing to come back to Hard Drop is quitting the game. If you play SRS Tetris at least semi-competitively, you WILL find about the Hard Drop Wiki and likely discover a well written forum post. If there were some extremely clear and concise guides that were easier to find, I'm sure more people would stick with the game. My friends usually quit Tetris because they feel inadequate which is a sure reason not to participate on forums or community events.

Tetris also has an INCREDIBLY culturally diverse group of players. We only know, hear, and love the big name US players and a few high level competitors from other nations. Let's make a comparison to League of Legends, the largest player base game and growing. League has:
- Matchmaking
- A growing roster of characters that many people look forward to
- Moderators and commentators with faces (IPL, Twitter)
- A single game with multiple game modes
- A casual audience who will return to the game
- A competitive audience who will return to the game
- A periodical live event that commercially funds the majority of its existence

Hard Drop only has one of these, and it's incredibly hard to keep up with or even kickstart the other 6.


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post Jan 29 2013, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(yotipo91 @ Jan 29 2013, 09:47 AM) *

According to Google Trends, Hard Drop is growing
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=har...C%20&cmpt=q

Curious to what the massive spike there is in December 2004. Doesn't coincide with anything that I can think of as far as Tetris releases or anything similar. And definitely doesn't have anything to do with HD given that the site has only been around since mid-2009.

Same for the local peaks in Jan 2010 and Jan/Feb 2012. I figured it was maybe TTO and TTO2 but the dates don't seem to coincide. Probably doesn't help at all that the name of the site is pretty generic and not very unique as a search term, so there'll be a lot of noise that has nothing to do with this site.
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post Jan 29 2013, 06:25 PM
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in order of current fuckedupedness, fixes for the world map:

1. "Recent" should actually deliver the most recent members. go to "Recent 100 members" and you will notice clincher's pink marker in central america. derp

2. the default should be to show no members or "Recent 100 members" for faster loading

3. an option for "All members"

4. more advanced filtering options


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post Jan 29 2013, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(yotipo91 @ Jan 29 2013, 12:47 PM) *

According to Google Trends, Hard Drop is growing
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=har...C%20&cmpt=q

You should have put it in quotes, see this. The trend doesn't show up, but it doesn't show down either. That's a good sign, if you have in mind there that were no many tourneys recently.

QUOTE(yotipo91 @ Jan 29 2013, 12:47 PM) *

Wow, I didn't know this. Rats, leave the ship! The last peak came from Tetris Battle, the highest peak from the 25th anniversary.
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post Jan 29 2013, 07:11 PM
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Sisu: I think 'recent' is vague - what they actually mean I think is the last 100 members to log in


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post Jan 29 2013, 07:41 PM
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Note: Please take this thread with a grain of salt, it appears that the software end of Harddrop is going in a different direction than prompted this thread. It can still be a source of useful discussion, however, so there's no reason to close it.

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Edit: ...I understand that people have historically gotten some sort of suspension or ban if they talk about moderation in general discussion.


This is incorrect. What people have gotten suspended for is not chilling out when directed to. As long as an outside observer isn't gonna look at a thread and see a bunch of infighting and flaming, I have no problem with it. I even tolerate that to an extent, understanding that people can get invested in a topic -- but it shouldn't go on for pages and pages with no productive conversation.

This thread is not exempt from the rules, unless you wanna move it to BWH. But the rules aren't what you seem to think they are.


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post Jan 30 2013, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE(Paul676 @ Jan 29 2013, 11:11 AM) *

Sisu: I think 'recent' is vague - what they actually mean I think is the last 100 members to log in


That would not explain why I_AM_SAND is there. Kiss.png


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