UK Tetris Open this Summer in London Options

[Rosti_LFC]

Absolute pain in the arse that something like this happens when I might potentially be in Japan.

Still not sure if I'll make it. If I'm in Japan, obviously not. If I'm anywhere in the UK, then I'll 100% definitely be there.

Either way I hope it's a success, and I hope you can run it again next year.

[Sisu]

Ecstasy of Order: The Tetris Masters is scheduled to screen at the 24th International Documentary Film Festival in Amsterdam.

http://www.idfa.nl

Robin Mihara aka tetrismattress, one of the organizers of the Tetris World Championships, will be in attendance.

The festival will take place from 16-27 November 2011.

No exact dates on the Ecstasy of Order showings yet.

[Rosti_LFC]

I'd also like to add that I think this thing should be double-elimination, because I don't like the idea of 50% of players only having one match and then that being it, and I think a plate would be a bit dumb for something like this.

This is a one-time thing so far (or at the very most it'll be once a year?). People might be making fairly large trips for it. I wouldn't want people to bother paying entry fees and making a journey and then just get knocked out in the first round in games that might not be particularly close if they're playing one of the really good guys. By making it double-elim you'd be making sure that people get a lot more from the tournament.

Plus it'd be really good for this sort of thing to encourage and retain players. It's far more likely to get people interested and active in a competitive community if they really enjoy themselves. People aren't going to enjoy a tournament where they play one game and lose badly in it, and double-elim should ensure that most people at least get one decent game.

Plus you've got seven hours scheduled for this thing - that should be more than enough time for a double-elimination format, given the single-elim only has six rounds, which is really not going to stretch anywhere near that long unless the games are Bo39 or something daft. Even including set-ups and faff and prizes and what have you, I'd imagine seven hours is plenty.

The rest of the stuff I'm quite happy with though. TF Arena is fine - it's an official game that's accessible to pretty much everyone (ie. they don't need a PS3 or a beta code). I think seeding the top 8 is good, because it should spread out enough of the really good players without regimenting the entire tournament bracket.

And real props for taking the initiative and organising this thing man. I'm currently on the fence about going, but it really wouldn't take that much more for me to just cut my Japan trip short and make sure I'm there.

Ecstasy of Order: The Tetris Masters is scheduled to blah blah blah

Dude if you're going to announce something like that, do it in a new thread. Don't randomly put it in a random post on the third page of a thread that has pretty much nothing to do with it.

[Paul676]

Myndzi or another mod - please could you split the thread so that Sisu's post becomes an OP of a new thread.

Rosti - I agree, it would be very frustrating to pay entry fee and then just get spat on by a pro. I'm always hesitant to do a double elim because I've never come across it outside tetris, and certainly not in sport tournaments which I've been a part of. I'm not quite sure why you don't like the idea of a plate tourney, since this would be the solution - it means that if someone gets an unlucky draw, they can still fight for something.

When would you have to know by to decide to cut your Japan trip short or not? I've got a few things lined up, hopefully (I don't wanna announce anything on this thread in case (a.) this thread affects any decisions made on the part of outside organisations and (b.) if I say something will happen, I've gotta be sure it'll happen, because I don't wanna disappoint.), so it should be pretty good. I'm just waiting on a few things.

[Rosti_LFC]

Rosti - I agree, it would be very frustrating to pay entry fee and then just get spat on by a pro. I'm always hesitant to do a double elim because I've never come across it outside tetris, and certainly not in sport tournaments which I've been a part of. I'm not quite sure why you don't like the idea of a plate tourney, since this would be the solution - it means that if someone gets an unlucky draw, they can still fight for something.

Double elimination tournaments are fairly rare in most sports, but in e-sports they're used pretty heavily, I think mostly just because of the ease of which you can run them when everyone is in one room the whole day. Pretty much all major SC2 tournaments in the West use a double-elimination format, for example.

I just don't think plates work very well when you've just got one big tournament. For regattas I think they work OK because there's generally like a dozen different competitions and being in the plate version of one competition is fine and adds to the day out, but I don't think a plate works as well for something like this. It just seems a touch stupid to have two competitions where one is entirely made up of people who weren't good enough to get through the first round of the other one, or deliberately threw their first game in the hope of getting easier opponents and at least winning something.

Plus from personal experience I find plate tournaments really annoying to people who lose in the second round, because you feel like if you'd lost in the first instead you'd have had a much better time with things. My crew also got shafted last year at Bedford regatta because we had a bye through to the second round and then an extremely difficult opponent there, and only really got to have one race because that bye meant we were ineligible to the plate, which we'd hoped to do fairly well in as a good M2 crew in a competition primarily full of M1 boats. Plates are good for some stuff, I just don't think so here.

When would you have to know by to decide to cut your Japan trip short or not? I've got a few things lined up, hopefully (I don't wanna announce anything on this thread in case (a.) this thread affects any decisions made on the part of outside organisations and (b.) if I say something will happen, I've gotta be sure it'll happen, because I don't wanna disappoint.), so it should be pretty good. I'm just waiting on a few things.

To explain a bit, I have a study tour in S. Korea and Japan for the first two weeks of July. If I decide I want to stay on for longer than those two weeks, then I'll only have to pay the difference in flights between the ones I get home and the ones I'd have gotten anyway if I'd gone back at the end of the tour. This basically means that I have pretty much free return flights to Japan as far as taking a holiday goes, and I'd sort of like to make use of that. I was planning on staying on another two weeks and coming back at the end of July, but I'd probably be OK with staying on just one week to get back for the Open, especially considering that'll still give me three weeks out there in total.

For when that means I need to make a decision by - I don't know. Basically whatever date I decide that I need to have my own flight back from Japan booked, which I've not really put much thought into yet but I guess some time around April/May.

[Sisu]

Dude

There is no thread because tetrismattress has not made it YET.

As I said, "No exact dates on the Ecstasy of Order showings yet."

No need to make a new thread, I can edit my post when he does make the thread.

Considering this is a thread about a European live Tetris event, EoO @ IDFA is a European Tetris event, and tetrismattress is a live Tetris organizer, it seemed to be on topic.

[Rosti_LFC]

It's on topic if you stretch the meaning of the topic to an extent at which it sort of relates (though this is a Tetris forum, so go figure most posts are going to link together somehow), but if it created discussion it'd be totally off-topic discussion from the stuff in the OP. I could make a post asking if anyone else is going to Insomnia because Insomnia is a UK gaming meet and this Tetris Open is going to be a UK gaming meet, but it'd be a bit of a daft place to do so. Yet somewhat more appropriate because people might actually be going to Insomnia (which looks pretty awesome), whilst I doubt many people are going to bother travelling to Amsterdam for a tetris-related movie première with only two or three weeks' notice.

Though props for BASEketball, even if that isn't the best DUDE scene in the movie.

[Sisu]

I doubt many people are going to bother travelling to Amsterdam for a tetris-related movie première with only two or three weeks' notice.

My mistake then. That is how we roll in the USA...and we don't even have those handy train thingys that Europe is full of.

[mippo]

BTW : We also need to go to a pub afterwards and have a harddrop afterpartyyy

[Rosti_LFC]

I'd be keen for that.

Also people needing somewhere to stay can potentially stay at my house in Cambridge (about £10 and an hour away on the train) depending on whether I actually know you that well or not.