T-Spin openers that result in a flat playfield? Options

[Okey_Dokey]

I am looking for openers where you make 2 or 3 T-Spins but active downstack mode immediately afterwards (thus having a rather flat field at the end of the technique, maybe even an empty field).

Let me start with a technique ZeroT posted on Discord. It's a TKI into Imperial Cross (lol at Imperial Cross being useful for a change). I also saw Amemiya taiyō starting with a slightly different version of it.



And as a second setup a DT Cannon into Perfect Clear. Again, a technique used by Amemiya. Probably, a little long as opener though.

[noonuus]

Notes on that exact DT canon setup:
If you look ahead far enough you often can know if a PC works or not before you place the 3rd O
Because if you place it at the right side first you can get alot more PC-able sequences




But if you know you can't PC with the sequence you can put the O on the left and transition like this (amemiya also does this):



which will always work like that if you get the L before S and T after you fired of the DT canon.

And to add another opening to your list, TKI variation into PC:

All those fumens are taken from one of Squirtles opponents in PPT who tried to beat his center 4 wide with that
He got that PC ALOT when he could get that first opening T spin (and without hesitation too)
(unfortunately Squirtle deleted all his VODs so I don't know what that players name was)








and some more:
v115@vhPDNJ+jBKpBRwBEmBvsBOeBlhBjXB5dBFqBikB8lB?HlBkpBAAA

v115@vhPDNJ+jBKpBRwBEmBvsBOeBlhBjXB5dBFqBikB8lB?HlBkpBAAA

v115@vhPKJJRwBEmBvsBDtB+jBOeBlhBsbBpdB7XBFqBKkB?PlBHqBAAA

v115@vhPBQJKpBDtBUmB/sBejBlhB7XB8bBudB5eBFqBypB?vpBFqBAAA

v115@vhPDJJBwB+tBMqBykBnmBlsBKkBEnBHtBFrBDtBGsB?RvBRvBAAA

v115@vhPDNJRwBvsBKpB+jBEmBFqBOoBnlB0pBpnBDfBigB?9rBasBAAA

v115@vhPKJJBwBbtBvsB+jBEmBFqBpnBslBlrBOoB7hBKkB?PlBHqBAAA

v115@vhPBQJbtBEmBKpB+jBvsBFqBpnBnlBlrBigBOoBjhB?kpBbpBAAA

v115@vhPKJJBwBEmBvsBDtBFqBlrB+tB7hBvpBaqBOoBslB?hfB5nBAAA

v115@vhPBQJEmBKpBDtBvsBFqBWyBkpBDoBnlBCjB2kB9rB?RlBasBAAA

v115@vhP+NJMqBbpBBwBnmBykBlsBHtBEnBSoBDkBFrBmpB?BsB7qBAAA

v115@vhPKJJBwBvsBEmBDtBFqBWyB0pBboBCjB2kBBgBnlB?9rBasBAAA

v115@vhPDNJRwBEmBKpBvsBWoBFqBDoBCjBkpBnlBlrB2uB?BqB7rBAAA

v115@vhPBQJnmBMqBbpBKfB+tBlsBJlBHtB6kBFrBDoBEsB?GsB7qBAAA

v115@vhPDJJ+tBBwBnmBKfBMqBlsBFrBJlB6kBEnBHtBGsB?jqBDtBAAA

v115@vhPBQJbtBEmBKpBvsBFqB+tBnlBkpBigBpnBOoBDfB?lrB7rBAAA

(im too lazy to combine them all in one)
And the nice thing is: if he knows he can't do the PC with his sequence he can just do the 2nd TSD instead like one normally would do.

[Okey_Dokey]

Thanks for the suggestions. I cover my later previews, so the T-Spin Double into PC after 6 lines setup is sadly nothing for me. It's interesting that we only mentioned 6 lines and 10 lines PC setups so far. 8 lines PC should have a better chance of working because it corresponds to 3 full bags (= 20 pieces placed + 1 piece in hold).

The other fumens as URL:
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?v115@vhPDNJ+jBK...kB8lB?HlBkpBAAA
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?v115@vhPKJJRwBE...qBKkB?PlBHqBAAA
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?v115@vhPBQJKpBD...qBypB?vpBFqBAAA
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?v115@vhPDJJBwB+...tBGsB?RvBRvBAAA
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?v115@vhPDNJRwBv...fBigB?9rBasBAAA
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?v115@vhPKJJBwBb...hBKkB?PlBHqBAAA
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?v115@vhPBQJbtBE...oBjhB?kpBbpBAAA
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?v115@vhPKJJBwBE...oBslB?hfB5nBAAA
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?v115@vhPBQJEmBK...kB9rB?RlBasBAAA
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?v115@vhP+NJMqBb...rBmpB?BsB7qBAAA
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?v115@vhPKJJBwBv...gBnlB?9rBasBAAA
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?v115@vhPDNJRwBE...rB2uB?BqB7rBAAA
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?v115@vhPBQJnmBM...oBEsB?GsB7qBAAA
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?v115@vhPDJJ+tBB...tBGsB?jqBDtBAAA
http://harddrop.com/fumen/?v115@vhPBQJbtBE...oBDfB?lrB7rBAAA

[Swarley]

Does it have to be reliable? If not, here's my favorite opening!

[Okey_Dokey]

That seems to be a very effectice strategy if you can pull off the PC. It's interesting that you can do 2 T-Spin Doubles into 2-line PC. Wonder if there are much more ways to do that. Probably there are for a T-Spin Single as second T-Spin (and 3 line PC).

Here's the mentioned strategy with 1 bag placed per frame:



And here 2 slight variations of it (compare the 5th frame):



And 2 variations where you need an I piece coming early in 3rd bag instead of an O piece:



And the J piece dropped somewhere else (left fumen works for more first bags):